This. This should be on the main page of Gears 5’s website.
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Even if MS/TC tag him on as a consultant, TC have no obligation to actually make his ideas a reality. And even so, how would you know it was him that did it?
We thank him for what he has done, but at this point I don’t think he is the right guy for the job. I could be wrong, but I guess we will never know.
“They say children always turn against their parents… figures.”
-Damon Baird-
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Cliffy b made gears of war bring him back he was just the scape goat when the servers where bad back in gears 2 everyone blamed him, Honestly he’s got good ideas he’s one of the main reasons gears was successful,
He made the chainsaw on the lancer which back then was a crazy idea it’s the identity of gears he also helped the story turn into a movie story line.
And online he did not try to make it Arcade if you look at his old interviews on gears judgement he said he never wanted gears to be arcade he always wanted traditional snub pistol and gnasher and lancer and smoke load out like the trilogy but epic games in the end didn’t listen to him and they changed judgement so he left and now gears is still a flop, bring him back for gears 6 he’s the only person who has expierence and knows gears in and out and will save this francise from dying.
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People never knew or realized that he was all about the lancer over the gnasher as well… the only difference is that he embraced the gnasher battles in later games to make the fans happy (gears 3 I’m lookin at you)., unlike what Rod F & Ryan C wanted for their fresh start that was gears 5 (I don’t say 4 cause they only copy/pasted the best version of the series, 3, and built off that with MTX… 5 is what they envisioned once they had control).
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People also don’t realize he was (gears 1) the reason the Xbox 360 released with double the ram it was supposed to release with. Gow1 wouldn’t work properly on the OG 360 design, so they doubled the ram. With that being said…
Cliffy B is also the reason Judgment happened. All the big changes were because of him.
There was a time he got a lot wrong in gears but the community was forgiving and he rolled with what the community wanted. He pushed for a lot of bad ideas as well, but surprisingly, Rod F was a buffer to his bad ideas. They used to clash & the games turned out better because of it (until Rod left & cliffy had full control of the bad ideas).
There’s proof that the game needed both of them to be good… gears 1,2, & 3. Once either of them had control without the other, we got bad or bland gears games (judgment, 4 & 5). Saying he’d fix gears is wrong IMO… his recent Twitter posts are proof (The ones where he said he’d do stuff differently). He had his time and he’s not the same person he was when he was younger. He’d do things differently now, and there’s no real way to say he’d be good for gears, so just accept that he’s not coming back and pray gears gets better with the way TC are doing things.
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Educate your self man before you judge Cliffy b go to 2:30 and then you’ll see he’s not in control of online, loads of people like you are the reason this game is gonna die because coalition are gonna think oh let’s not bring back Cliffy b because people don’t like him even tho they just assume he’s bad when he has no control of anything bad it’s the other designers he’s refreshing and knows gears in and out we need him back to save gears.
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He would be a consultant only. He doesn’t want to come back full time to Gears. Besides, he is never coming back. If MS wanted him to work on it, then they would’ve hired him already.
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I think an advisor role would suit him perfectly, they still have time to hire they have to if they want to save this game
People tend to either forget or ignore how Cliff was honestly a bad influence to Gears over time. Sure, he was the main reason Gears actually originally happened, but like many have said, his vision of Gears was not aligned with that of the community’s. Same with Rod. He was definitely needed with the transferring of Gears to a new team as he knew Gears 1 inside and out so he was a great help with the development of UE. Likewise, he was there to help in making it a smoother transition to creating new Gears games from the ground up as TC smartly played it safe first with Gears 4. If Gears 4 was like 5, the community would’ve pretty surely abandoned them right there and then. Gears 5 then showed that TC needed new leadership that would not be sort of anchored down by old ideas of what Gears should be like. After both Rod and Ryan left, things have been moving forward and tbh TC has ever since been reacting relatively quickly to feedback.
I’m not trying to bash on either Rod or Ryan here. Or Cliff for that matter. I appreciate the essential work all of them have done on Gears. Gears wouldn’t exist without either Rod or Cliff. Then without Rod’s return to Gears TC would’ve probably been pretty lost from the get-go and without Ryan, Gears 4 versus (especially comp) wouldn’t have been as good as it was. I can only respect them for all of that.
But, as I said, TC was in need of new leadership. And right now, despite the current issues with the game, I’m feeling hopeful and pretty much confident about Gears 5 because imo TC’s heads are in the right place (that’s a figure of speech, right? I’m not sure because English isn’t my native language lol). 2 things are right now mostly bothering me. Namely the ranked system and getting constantly matched with 5-stacks. Ranked is in pre-season though so TC are obviously gonna do some changes based on feedback and data. The 5-stack issue I hope is somehow solved so that solo players and small parties won’t constantly be matched with 5-stacks.
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You have better english than most english speaking people on this forum.
I also agree with a lot of what you said.
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Let’s be honest I think everyone would rather have Cliffy b than Rod Ferguson.
It’s perfect for him to come back because gears have nothing to lose it’s a sinking ship and rod Ferguson has the foundation of gears and kept it original so you don’t need to worry he’s going to change anything, he will just add more guns and make the game feel refreshed again, I don’t see the harm in it but that’s my opinion and a lot of people aswel
Are you kidding me? People like me? Lol I’ve actually been playing gears for almost 15 years, been a part of the OG gears forum, then black tusk’s forum and joined late to the converted TC forum, but you, someone who just joined last year says “ppl like me.” Lol at you bro.
I wasn’t attacking you or trashing you, but you gotta go hard at me? I was merely talking with you about how cliffy got old (like the rest of us) and how even tho he had good ideas (accidentally), he wouldn’t have the same good ones today. His twitter responses are literal proof of that!
No, the problem is ppl like you… parroting what you hear and what you THINK will save gears… when the man himself has clearly said he doesn’t have the same drive, and it’d be done differently than how the community thinks. Maybe YOU need to lighten up and realize a young cliffy b isn’t the same guy as and older cliffy b. I’m not the same guy I was when I was 20 (and I’m in my 40s now), so why would cliffy be any different?
Wake up… gears will only be close to what it was… It’ll never be like it was, and cliffy b isn’t the guy who’s gonna change it.
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This comment has made me pretty curious.
I say this because I feel like the fundamentals of wall bouncing in versus, are applicable and necessary in PVE as well. There are certain situations that come to mind that I would have flat out not survived if I simply roadie ran and cover slipped to safety. I guess I never really put too much thought into it, but do the players who are on the top of every Horde and Escape leaderboard wall-bounce, or have they established a strategy that circumvents it? Personally, I feel wall-bouncing (not hyper-bouncing) it just part of the meta of all Gears modes now, not just PVP.
People need to be honest with themselves.
Gears 6 is most likely already in production, and not a ton will change between now and release.
I’m afraid the boat has already set sail.
One would imagine Rod’s influences will still hold great sway on the development of 6.
Again I have to educate you like I said don’t assume and post stuff and try and get people to hate him for no reason. The guy who made gears 1 and the best game fransice ever made. Unless you have real evidence. Which you clearly don’t.
This picture was 5 weeks ago 2020 on his Instagram him saying he’s put his offer to Microsoft and coalition to help with gears 6 and as you can read he put “heard crickets In response” he’s hasn’t heard anything back but he wants to come back to gears, we have a voice and we can help make this happen but negative people like you gears will defiantly be dead as we want people developing this game who knows gears not bob down the road. You’ve been on a forum for years? That doesn’t mean nothing Lol, iv been playing gears since 06 not on a little forum since 06 I know this game more than any other game fella and I play competive online from 1 to 5 I don’t judge an old developer that made a great trilogy.
Gears 2 was P2P. They didnt have severs until Gears 3
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What’s wrong with Cliffy B? Nothing. He created Gears of War and we should all be thankful for that. His vision of the game is what we all liked. It’s the reason it grew to be a trilogy and then some. I would be more than happy to welcome him back because this game belongs to him. I just don’t know how well his chops would be considering he took a long break from game developing and his latest games didn’t do so well. I don’t care though. There is nobody I would feel more comfortable handling this game than Cliff or Rod, but Rod left of course. I say welcome him back. This game has spiraled out of control and now the community is running it into the ground. Constant complaining about everything literally all the time to the point where the devs keep changing things over and over. I would rather have Cliff run it into the ground if that were to happen, because at least the captain would go down with the ship.
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That explains the lag on gears 2