Was kinda relieved to see this. 2.8 rating (update- its now 2.5)

Might be of the persuasion that can’t take crit. Yes, some go about it the wrong way out of frustration but the game is flawed and needs fixes. Those are facts.

Then compile a thread that consists of those facts, not subjective ones. Just the facts that need fixing. Errors. Not preferences like " horde is broken " because it isn’t. The weapon lockers are somewhat yes. The rest not. That’s just subjective, I.e. class system blows.

Ive not seen anyone of the complainers create a post that lists the facts that need fixing yet. It’s worth a shot

Once the factual errors are fixed they can consider personal flavor. I’d rather the actual issues being addressed first. But I’m not really a complainer. I do honestly think, though, that such a thread might be undeniable for them.

Well I’ve seen a lot of frame rate stuttering on horde, slowdown, people going down and can’t be revived, jack got stuck in a wall for 4 waves.
The class system is bad. Subjective as that may be it is not a great system as it affects player freedom of choice. How can you be for a system like that?
I had a video on the forums somewhere of the matriarch jumping off the map in Harbour.

Those are facts, besides the class system. Let’s focus on the facts first. If one makes a thread and edits it to contain all of the errors, then ask a mod to forward it to the devs that’s a way of actively helping out, which is pretty much large scale bug reporting. That’ll be more beneficial than 100 threads about subjective things. But one of the complainers would have to pick it up and take the initiative for it

Ps. I like the class system. I love it actually. And with me quite a lot of the people I play horde with. We just need double the roster for more variety.

Funny because my horde peeps despise the class system. I don’t want to be jd or Kait or del

My fave is Marcus and I want that freedom. FREEDOM OF CHOICE!

Down with the class system!

Because roots go deep buddy. Not going to abandon it right away. We want it fixed.

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how could you love the class system in gears 5, you can’t be a scout and be JD, your forced to be Kait?

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So?

Freedom of choice! Freedom of choice! Freedom of choice!

That’s why for the millionth time!

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Ill pass on seeing fahz with a grenade lancer. Doesn’t fit his lore

Omg lore isn’t valid in co-op vs ai waves of enemies multiplayer experience. Horde has nothing at all do to with campaign and is its own thing. Lore is a weak excuse.
Also, if you want to feed me that excuse then Kait should be a sniper according to lore, not Fahz.

But seriously, freedom of choice should always be there no matter what. It is a big part of the multiplayer experience.

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You do have freedom of choice. Just not how you want it. You can choose which character you play. To that is a role attached that can be somewhat customized to fit 2 or 3 playstyles. Accept it.

And no, kait was trained as outsider without cog technology to fight both unarmed/ with knife (hence her cloak ability and execution skill cards you can use) and a shotgun for close quarter combat. By her uncle if I recall correctly.

Fahz has always been a sniper.

If you want to be technically accurate, the details of her combat training - to my knowledge - are never stated anywhere at all. And it does say something that she always starts with a Longshot in Act 1 of both Gears 4 and 5. Just because she can fight one way does not mean she can’t fight another or prefer a certain way(as stated before, Ascendance would make you believe she would be a sniper… but TC either conveniently ignored that simply to have a Scout role for Horde at launch, to stick Sniper on Fahz, or they don’t respect their own lore, which… well, would probably not be a good thing).

But in all fairness, Kait would probably be able to fit a variety of combat roles instead of just being good at one particular thing.

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what I meant with the example is that, Your forced to play one character while in reality horde 2.0 was a good system mostly because it let us choose our character, this isn’t overwatch, they’re not heroes. I don’t get why they changed it in that fashion.

Also I just realized you found nothing wrong with my example because you probably think Kait is a good character also because of your profile pic. so on that topic and if it is true, why do you like Kait? She seems bland as hell, having the same I am Woman here me roar crap. The only interesting and yet very damning plot she has going for her is that Queen Myrrah is her grandmother. Nothing else in character development happens to her at all

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Kait her lore is nice, i actually like the direction of the story in campaign. Most games nowadays have a campaign that becomes very blunt and same old after a few releases. This one took a new turn. Id rather Marcus was still the cover though. He is and always will be my gow icon.

But seeing he isn’t anymore, I’m glad it’s kait. Rather than JD. JD is nothing compared to the legend his father is. There’s only one real fenix, that’s Marcus. So if they stray from having him as main character then I’m happy with the current outcome.

Well she’s a sniper because of that exact reason he mentioned in his own comment, Kait is an Outsider, not a trained soldier, She can’t do close combat because she’d get her ■■■ kicked in a lore-friendly environment, Now TC ignoring that is pretty accurate since they know that the scout is necessary if you want to bring in a little more power. So they in someway are forcing you to play as her.
I for one didn’t think the class system in Gears 4 was bad or broken, now it feels even more broken because of the limited freedoms we get and how the game feels overall when your in their. People can’t play as who they want to play anymore and it’s pretty lackluster because if you also want to be jack, or JD or Del your switched for being the person behind the first person who chose that character.

Disagree. Jack is the new Scout with the Forge and the skill that gives more power for melted down weapons. Kait’s passive - which is the only thing she gets that gives a power bonus - is very much not useful for higher difficulties because you just get downed way too quickly.

Actually if you think about it, TC just destroyed your Icons whole story and making Gears 1-3 utterly pointless because They brought back Myrrah with some voodoo magic she was always in the hive type of ■■■■■■■■.

Also it’s the same old locust just called swarm now, Clayton carmine summed it up pretty quick with the “grubkiller, swarmkiller whatever”. The story is blunt since Gears 4 and using the same premise since the last three. They could of literally just made a prequel gears where, The UIR and The COG fought since they have been fighting for almost 100 years, Placed James and Del and Kait inside that war and they could of gone to town on it. In my Opinion, Since they wouldn’t need to rely on marcus and the delta squad as characters inside that lore since they could say James, Del and Kait are from before marcus became a gear

Hey I’ve played as kait and haven’t been downed using the right set-up for her build, and she brings in power, well atleast I have when I played her character back in the first two weeks. But I will agree jack has it going on

I wouldn’t call it destroyed. It’s a new generation and he’s still present. The only thing they did destroy… is his horde skillset. As a ‘living legend’ he should be able to do more than get an airboat on his ult. A good player will give headshots anyway