Versus Achievements are Completely Unrealistic

Btw those Gears 5 achievements are horrendous falling in the monotony. And those who defend this kind of achievements have mental problems.

These achievements wouldn’t bother me at all if the Versus was actually enjoyable.

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Yeah someone’s achievements list tells me if they like certain games and if I’d be playing with them more often because I can see their passion for crushing hard achievements or if they just care about 3 different games. Gears is failing because of the elitist attitude from coalition etc not understanding all communities of players if any at all and that’s all I want is a good future for gears of war. Not everybody wants gift wrapped achievements, I have tons of some of the hardest achievements on Xbox live, I just know when enough is enough and some of you need to be less shallow and single minded and full of yourselves, it’s shrinking your player base you keep crying about.

Perfect answer right there. I mean even in their stream they came up with the funny idea to complete a Horde with 5 Jacks. Why isn’t it an achievement yet?

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I dont understand why ppl complain about achievements after they started playing the game, surely if ur the type of person that wants 100% achvs from a game u do ur homework first.

Ive said this before and ill say it again.

If u think these achvs r unrealistic go and have a look at quake 4 achvs.

Heres 3 of the hardest achvs to get…

Complete 5000 ranked matches.

Aquire a position in the top 10 of the global leader board

Aquire rank number 1 in the global leader board.

I don’t play games for achievements, but if it’s a game I like and enjoy I will try to 100%. These achievements also were released far after launch.

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It took me about 2 years of solid gameplay on Gears of War 1 to get the Seriously achievement, I was also a teenager and could play all day if I wanted. Haven’t got a seriously achievement since as can only play for a couple hours at a time if that so have always just disregarded them, went after the Tour of Duty this Season but and am very close to doing that, aim for something achievable rather than wasting time on something that isn’t.

I can understand your point, but the achievements in question were added 10 months after the game came out, with no prior warning. Quake 4 had these achievements out at launch.

And those achievements are difficult. I imagine getting to number 1 takes a lot of skill and a lot of grinding. But getting 100,000 kills isnt really skillful. It’s just a time sink that if anything encourages grinding methods that dont really help the community.

Plus, said grinding methods make it so that this achievement isn’t even rewarding those who toil for years, as opposed to someone who could afford another Xbox and did it without much issue.

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The irony of it all is that TC think they’re keeping people playing their game by adding these.

They’re really not. They’re either stopping people playing at all or preventing people who care about achievements who do play from enjoying the game by forcing their hand to grind against bots instead of just have fun. And the people who don’t care about achievements aren’t impacted either way.

All they’re doing is annoying a bunch of their player base and trying to make them have no fun on their game. This is the sort of thing that should be an in-game challenge and not an achievement. They seem confused that there is a big difference between how to categorise certain tasks based on the requirements.

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How much hand holding you need? BFF and reup50 are a joke now. Now this thread? Sad. Get it over with and just ask for every achievement to be given after you pass the title screen.

You’re completely missing the point here. I’m not asking for the achievement to be a hand out at all and never stated that. I’m asking TC to make achievements more skill based or obtainable through normal play. 100k is neither of those things and is worth a measly 10g. They are very poorly designed achievements. A better achievement would be “Get 20,000 eliminations in Ranked Versus” or something like that. Not something that requires exploitation to achieve. I have no problem going for tough achievements, but they should be fun or challenging to go for.

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I want to express my gratitude to the developers for reconsidering their attitude to getting XP! you at least saved the players from years of torment

BUT achievements in the spirit of 100,000,000 kills in multiplayer 1,000,000,000,000 damage and 1,000,000,000,000,000 help are still there and continue to cause mourning on the faces of caring users.

On behalf of the entire community and achievement hunters, I ask you to reconsider this policy regarding achievements of this kind, and that madman who came up with this absolutely stupid idea to fire the hell out!

You can create achievements to master all horde cards of 12-50 waves on workshop difficulty, you can make an achievement in the spirit of pumping all classes to lvl 20, but creating achievements in the style of killing 100,000,000 … enemies is crazy! and stupid!

Thank you for your understanding, what you did with XP is really worthy of respect.

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The VS achievements were clearly an error in the first place. Dana Sissons said in a developer stream after they first came out that they are expected to take about 3 weeks to complete. Even at 1000 kills a day that’s 3 and a half months of playing for about 4 hours straight EVERY single day. Add in assists at you are maybe adding on another 2 to 3 months. That’s 6 months of 3-4 hours a day EVERY day. Added to that the 100,000 kills with a gnasher will only get 6,000,000 damage assuming you do max damage on every kill which of course you won’t unless you are playing against idle controllers. That being the case you will still be 40,000 kills or more away getting the damage achievements. Appreciate the assists will contribute to damage total but to get all vs achievements done its going to be in the region of 8 months playing 3-4 hours per day EVERY day. Granted that will be quicker against idle controllers but TC bring out achievements to obtain by playing the game legit not by killing idle players. But hey TC expect them all to be complete in 3 weeks. Their calculation has just been way off on this. Someone literally can’t count and has likely added an extra zero onto the required numbers.

Now thing is the BFF and re-ups didn’t change the achievement requirements they just changed the in game mechanics to make them more obtainable (probably too much). Problem is, for these VS achievements 100,000 kills is still 100,000 kills. That can’t be changed which the Castle of No Escape games found out when changing achievement requirements was seen as a breach of terms and conditions by Microsoft. So what’s the solution? Well given the re-ups are super quick now there really doesn’t seem any point in 2x or 3x or 4x XP events. So why not replace these with kills, assists and damage in vs count double or triple events. That way requirements stay the same but in game mechanics make them easier to obtain.

TC really need to take a look at this. It clearly hasn’t been their intention to for these to take that long and someone needs to man (or woman) up and admit that and do something about it.

Finally I know full well someome is going to say 1000 kills taking 3-4 hours must make me a n00b and they can get treble that but realistically even in a game of KOTH taking about half an hour 100-120 kills is about the most I’ve seen. That’s 200-240 an hour so maybe even 4 hours for 1000 is being very optimistic. I might be a bit off but at least I’ve put some thought into the numbers and calculations which seems exactly what TC has failed to do.

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I love they are pointing at us if we from TA are exploiters…

These achievements should be cut with atleast 80% in 12k Annex matches on Gears 2 I had only raked in 80-90k kills this was me playing as a teen annex only for 3 years straight.

This achievement? Legitimately?

No ■■■■■■■ way, it’s so obscenely long even if you try to go legit co-op ai. You know how many persons yeet your kills there…

Let me put it like this these achievements should’ve been throwbacks to old Gears of Wars that would be nice

10k Versus kills Seriously 5.0 Chapter 2
100k Eliminations Overall Seriously 5.0 Chapter 2
Complete all tour medals excluding events (referring to all Onyx medals from 3)

But damage is where its really at…

At a kill given at full gib only give you a mere 600 damage you can see the issues surfacing

So realisticly it would take a bare minimum 333.333 kills at full gib for this achievement which is insane if you ask me

God forbid them ever conveiving such dumb achievements.

Its more that if you own these achievements you passed the test to apply for an insane assylum

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That is actually one hell of a sentence that matches pretty well. One can grind it (either with a friend with 3 additional controllers) or by having 2 xboxes with two accounts and 8 total controllers. But it still takes like 60 hours or something if I’m not mistaken and afaik the method used was even patched partially (which is seriously stupid to patch such a thing…). In addition to that on PC you can’t even splitscreen into Private Versus for whatever reason… playing on my old Xbox is just so terrible for me with this terrible quality and frame-drops.

TC changed the achievement requirements for Rank and File in Gears 4. Not some in-game metrics while leaving the achievement the same. They changed the actual requirements.

At first, you had to earn a rank in each core and competitive mode. It was later updated to be a rank in one core and one competitive mode.

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I think the point made for the change was the EU playerbase making it more difficult for them to find matches in all ranked modes or something like that. So it seems changes are allowed if there’s something not allowing those achievements to be completed.

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I’ve never heard that explanation for the change, but it would make sense.

By that logic, there won’t be any changes to the versus achievements, because you can unlock them in private custom, meaning there is no barrier for anyone.

I only vaguely remember something like that being stated for the reason of the change. Could look it up but I don’t think the news from Gears 4 are still up and around.

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I don’t believe xbox achievements can be altered once they are published.