Uhhhh im just done

Here it is, the talking point that no one talks about. Its unfortunate too, because it is dead-on correct.

People get mad at TC for ruining Gears, but nothing can be blamed more for ruining Gears than the video game industry itself and its propensity to continuously evolve. There is more and more variety in gameplay springing up every single day and its hard to keep players interested in experiences they have already had.

Long story short, Gears didn’t change, we did.

There are only a handful of series that have competitive PVP and have been around for 15 years. Gears is technically older than Call of Duty, if you consider that COD didn’t get it’s enormous playerbase until Modern Warfare. It’s certainly not easy to keep anything 15 years old feeling ‘Fresh’.

Developers of these older series have to walk this undefined extremely narrow line of keeping the games original charm but also evolving with the times. Gears 4 and 5 have done that rather successfully in my opinion.

Here, I got some ‘tough pills’ for everyone to swallow…

Even if Gears was still owned by Epic, the majority of you would still hate the latest two entries in the series. IF (and this is a big IF) they decided to actually make a Gears 4, they would have…

  • very likely asked Rod to leave Irrational Games to head the project,
  • no Cliff, because he had already left Epic with no intention to ever return.
  • Key employees like Lee Perry had already left to work on their own projects
  • the incredible track record of having made the undisputed worst game in the series as their idea of ‘how to evolve the series’.

I am not trying to dismiss TC of any wrongdoings or a horrid launch, but most of the negative comments I still see around here come from people who are incapable of thinking about what is really involved in making games.

It doesn’t matter what studio was chosen to make this current trilogy, the majority of you would still be blaming them for the fact that you don’t have the same chemical reaction in your brain you once had 15 years ago.


Why do people still need to announce this, play or dont, no offense but no one really cares. I’ve quit gears 5 seven times now, wish I could have a celebration for every time. But no, people are just thankful they dont gotta team up with me anymore.

Also play ranked if you dont want bots.

Slayer out

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Due to the systems implemented in 4/5 i rarely play social/QM so im surprised to see 5 stacks running around tbagging there, i thought the teams only played ranked but if its in social it doesn’t really matter.

What i mean is at one point gears 5 had remove it bot from vs then everyone started to whine bout the unbalances of it going against stacks. i think ill take bots then vs a 5 man squad not to mention…let be happy there not like Gears of war 2 bots xD

i also had seen some onxy in there as well or well to see them i mean there flame weapon skins

Gears 5 was wildly different than gears 4. Gears did change, expectations also changed.


What do you consider the most damaging and substantial change? I am very interested to hear your thoughts.

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Other games have been beating the Gears franchise since Gears 3. Judgement didn’t help at all so in reality it’s a lot of blame on EPIC.

Because you can’t flounce without announcing you’re going to flounce!

Lol :laughing:


I fell in love with gow4 PvP. Loved it. KoTH and Dodgeball…

There was no one more hyoed and excited for G5 …

G5 PvP, to me, suuuuuucks… It is horrible… Eveeything which made me fall in love with PvP in gow4 has been reduced, eliminated, nerfed, slowed down, filled with delays, etc, etc in g5.

I did not change.

The PvP game changed. Into something i dont play since i hate it. Pure and simple.

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I wrote a entire thread on it Here

In short, the gnasher functions fundamentally different than gears 4, the movement is much slower, the shot magnetization can be game breaking, the melee is fast and auto targeting, characters hold sidearms different, delays on shots, frags and other actions are increased. There are some positive changes but most were negative.

So yes the game changed, people dont like the changes. My thread hit the edit limit otherwise id keep updating it

To answer the original question id say the most damaging change is either the movement or the delays.


People complain bout the gnasher so it got nerf, now they complain it sucks. people complain bout the lancer being too op it got nerf, people complain bout the whole nerfing of that. you see the pattern? people complain bout movement it got nerf improve nerf then they stopped messing with it. it no wonder they stopped messing with the whole tuning thing and left where it at now because the fans kept complaining when they try to fix it and why g5 might just be dieing lol

The PS4 also did take away alot of xbox fans as well, everyone and their mom owned a 360 back in the day and that was due to the xbox being the superior console. Now PS4 sadly runs the show.


Theres never going to be a perfect tuning because everybody has a differing opinion lol.

Obviously people are gonna disagree and not approve of certain tunings because they might prefer the gow 1 tuning or the gow 3 tuning or whatever tuning existed in the 15 years gears has been around.

The best thing TC can do imo is make a poll, ask us what tunings we all liked the best and them just make a new tuning based on what gets the most votes.

If I had to guess what tuning would win, it would most likely be the gears 4 core tuning.

this i agree on mostly i mean they can try to improve it but there always disagreement among many!

Ah yes…the life with the xbox as a tv base at launch

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I think pleasing the majority should be the priority rather than a couple “pros”.

it kinda the whole thing with 343 induntries when they passed the mentle down to them from microsoft but they manage to pull it off. TC ik they went like through 3 studio name changes in the past i think one was called the black tusk studios idk the other but i wouldn’t know how hard it would be to please a fan base since i never worked at a studio be kinda cool but i also assume a stress from your boss expecting great things from you

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343 is doing it with Halo Infinite, TC can definitely please us.

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