“This isn’t about you, this is about me”

Yeah I didn’t, its just not relatable as a human being is what I’m saying :joy::joy:

Should of made kait the new queen and kill del while she gets turned, would of worked alot better than this current bollocks

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Couldn’t agree more with you, characters and story sucks, kait is horrible and Fahz as well I hate them both so much! Everything in the game is boring and watered out! Some chapters are OK like the research facility similar to gow2 and the urban scenario and I like the effort for making a first step into a semi open world but it has made in a wrong way barren mostly empty with few things to do!
I hope for the future I would like to see Gears being put into a full open world like ghost recon breakpoints or assassin’s creed with skill, xp, and level up! can you imagine with gears universe, 4 players coop drop in drop out where you explore different locations moving from city to city, forests, caves, abandoned military or research facilities , going beneath to reach locust and swarm home land and you travel by foot or veichels like the raven or with many big dungeons separate with travels point similar to an open world or this could be a nice addition as a new multiplayer mode standing among horde, versus and escape!!! Imagine this people got potential.
I would like to se dlc story 3,4hours chunk of campaigns telling stories from comic books introducing new characters as we got with Raam’s shadow dlc!!!
Many things can be done but no we must make a trilogy with Kait… :joy::pensive:

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Yeah that line sucks. I don’t like it.

I don’t really like where the story goes after Act 2. Act 3 feels really disposable from a plot POV. Yeah, the character relationships are needed to make Act 4 more impactful, but you could completely remove the 3rd act and it wouldn’t affect the plot all that much.

As for Act 4, they end the game literally as it was starting to get interesting. You end on such a low on that campaign.

I really like the first half of the campaign, and then it drops off after that. The choice is potentially going to make things more complicated for Gears 6, and we end on a low note where we don’t really know what is going to happen.

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Hey wait a minute if Reyna can magically come back from the dead, maybe Lizzie’s ok too!

But yeah Kait is a terrible character. Her entire personality for the first two acts is “OwW hEaDaChE” then shifts to cringey attempts to sound witty and cool. Plus she’s selfish as hell. For one she abandoned her duty as a soldier for person issues. (Its NEVER about you, its about the people on your left and right.) Another thing is she’s a freaking Corporal and by act 3 she bosses around two lieutenants and a captain. I’m sorry but any officer worth their salt would have stomped her insubordinate guts out. They should have kept the feeling of the first act that you’re playing as a soldier, not someone who does whatever they want

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Guess what Marcus did prior to Gears 1 that landed him in the “The Slab” prison. He abandoned his squad(platoon?) during an important battle while forgetting he held something important to using the Hammer of Dawn to attempt to save his father, which resulted in the battle being lost.

No one seems to pick on his character for that. Yet apparently Kait going off on her own for selfish reasons is despicable when she does it after the fighting has ended and it is relevant to her and potentially the rest of the planet because of some connection to the Locust?

And in Act 3 JD is trying to reestablish trust with Kait, attempting to enforce military structure by having him or Fahz in charge would have achieved the exact opposite.

Though it was a little odd they just left Kait to do the same in Act 4.

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Lot’s of us didn’t played with Gears 1. So this Marcus thing is new to us. :face_with_monocle:

You don’t need to play Gears 1 to know that(where they don’t even cover why he’s in prison, that is mentioned elsewhere in a book if I remember correctly, though I learnt from it on this forum page). It’s a relatively important part to Marcus’ character though.

Lot’s of people don’t know about the history of the characters… And never ever read a book or a comics about Gears of War… :face_with_monocle:

Then they shouldn’t be complaining that personal motives have no place in the game because they are always present throughout the series’ games.
Also, please stop with the stupid emojis, they’re just annoying.

It would still be nice for the Devs to shed some light on the subject. Lol oh wait that’s probly “Dead Space” or whatever they call the sh*t they can’t talk about :joy:

Marcus got sent to prison. Kait got a pat on the back. Every time Marcus makes a bad call he pays for it, he takes a punishment and grows from it. Kait gets rewarded for putting herself above others and awakening the new grub queen, making the swarm even deadlier.

As for act 3, he shouldn’t have to earn anything from her. He’s the CO. As a soldier you take an oath to trust and obey those appointed over you. If anything she should be the one earning their trust, proving that she can fall in line when need be.

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Saying Kait gets “rewarded” is not exactly accurate. Marcus understood that going back to the COG at that point in time would not help Kait figure out a secret that could be very relevant, even if it was against direct orders and not the best course of action in terms of military behavior. And she does feel… well, guilt maybe about awakening the Queen, given that she feels responsible for having to stop her. Kait could also just have blindly followed “orders” from someone who was once a friend but is now ignoring her and not caring for her welfare and tries to “COG” it up. But what use would that have been if she just lost it because of her Swarm hivemind connection or was taken over by Myrrah?

JD clearly felt like he had to due to the way he’d been acting towards Del and Kait over the last few months after the fall of Settlement 2, which you’re conveniently forgetting. Or the way he reacted by simply trying to push away what he may or may not have felt when Kait revealed the Locust necklace and attempted to cover it up with “orders”.

And you’re also clearly forgetting that Kait isn’t a soldier but an Outsider at heart and hates the COG, and that Kait and Del aren’t exactly the most “military” type of soldier, and that they still held JD in contempt by Act 3 due to how he’d been acting which wasn’t like himself. Kait especially, while having the common sense to realize the COG is the best way to survive the Swarm, is not happy to be within them and almost certainly isn’t strictly adhering to military structure due to her Outsider background. Not to mention JD himself came to Vasgar without telling Jinn. Do you expect that sort of behavior from someone with the rank of Captain? Or to then decide that the best way to regain the trust he lost from your friends while he’s there not as COG JD, but a friend, would be to go and make everything work strictly according to military structure?

But I don’t see why I even am trying to make any points here considering your simplistic views, that don’t correspond to the actual situations, and that I won’t change.

I doubt they’ll come here but it’d be nice if @Wisdom_Thumbs or someone else alike could bring in their two cents here… partly because they can articulate their points better and probably found/know more than me.

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Honestly, after playing the campaign, I know why Kait said that. If she didn’t disconnect herself from the hivemind, she could have unwillingly defected like JD predicted.

I do think she could have worded that better, but her uncle just died, so I guess she was still grieving.

Plus, she becomes more bearable throughout the game, anyway. When Act 4 rolls around, she and JD are friends again.

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They might make Del’s death canon to build JD’s character. Like how Marcus was developed as his friends died around him throughout the game.

It’ll be better for JD so he can fully understand the casualties of war. Plus, if JD died, the Fenix legacy dies with him.

Maybe besides a flashback, I feel like Marcus’ time is over. We’ve seen him grieve already. We’ve seen him unleash his righteous fury. To be honest, it’ll get old seeing it again. Let’s see how Del’s death affects JD in the long run.

Also Dom had his “its not about you, its about m” moment when he went to go look for Maria.

It might not have taken as long but he still did it

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JD does it to Fahz throughout the whole 1st act

Marcus literally says “Shut the f$ck up Fahz”

I understood that she ordered them since it was her mission not approved by Jinn.

The only reason why she still orders them in Act 4, is probably, what I assume, so we can choose between JD and Del.

When I said rewarded, I should have said she isn’t punished. She never faces any sort of reprimand and she’s never at fault. That’s not how things work.

The whole settlement 2 thing was crap. Kait and Del acted all disgusted when they found out about what JD did. He was wrong to lie about it but his actions were justified. Protestors who throw fists and fire bottles are no longer protestors, they’re rioters. And if rioters think they can attempt to inflict harm on some scared teenagers with rifles and not get shot, then they deserved it. JD probably didn’t want to be around people who looked at him like a monster for doing his job.

As for the outsider at heart bit, that’s absolutely trash and its incredibly selfish. The gears oath opens with “I forsake the life I lead before”. The real world military works that way too. Nothing about your past matters, the only things that do matter are you’re a soldier now, and you do your job. If you put yourself above your job the mission fails and if the mission fails then a lot more people die that didn’t have to. Looking back to Marcus, he put himself and his dad above the job, and that ended with a lot of dead Gears.

I thought JD and Fahz were both the same rank in act 1