Do they mock each other during a battle?
Never got the chance to find out, I spent my career on standby and cleaning duty.
I’m more annoyed with how terribly the whole scen was handled than the death itself, but it sure doesn’t help it. I get it, being around an unpredictable Hammer of Dawn beam is not an easy situation but aren’t soldiers supposed to keep their calm under stress and not panic and turn stupid trying to open a jammed door when they know they have other options available? It just isn’t thought through.
After the events of Gears 4 Jin wouldnt even have to give them a choice of Jail or full reinstatement. JD and Del knew the trouble and knew they needed the COG.
And too be fair you and I have been through this before with Lizzy so Im not even gonna touch that one with you lol
What death and yeah Lizzie was a better character in twenty minutes than Kait was in 2 games
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Lizzie should have her own dlc no cap
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To be fair, that was Lizzie’s first real war, so she wasn’t battle tested. “This is the Swarm, huh? Not impressed.”
I mean, yeah, she came off as a badass, but it was clear she needed more time in combat.
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Ok, but that doesn’t excuse how the writing took a total dump in that scene just so TC could kill yet another Carmine who was actually promising this time, for JDs character arc when it could’ve been Del who got killed there.
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No, killing Del that early would have been a bad idea. People might not care all that much, but he’s JD’s childhood friend, and carries some importance in the COG. Killing him, a main character over killing Lizzie, a side character wasn’t something they were gonna do.
Especially since he potentially dies at the end of the game anyways.
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It was simply to say that killing Del would have had the same effect of triggering a change in JDs character. Whether it would have been a good decision or not, that’s a different matter entirely.
And I could argue forever about the should and shouldn’t haves on Gears 5 Campaign like the Lizzie scene or the “choice” at the end which isn’t really a choice because TC apparently have a canon ending planned anyway, for 5.
And where is Del’s importance in the COG? Ok, he served with them some time prior and got to the rank of Lieutenant, but he really doesn’t seem very COG-y and like he cares too much about the military organization itself(we don’t even know if Marcus gave him the same advice of not joining up like he gave to JD). But the overall effect it would have seems quite limited if he’d died earlier on. TC could have had a replacement for Del in Act 2 as Kait’s sidekick(hint hint) easily.
And to me combat is a different scenario than getting chased around by an unpredictable Hammer of Dawn beam and everyone’s brains suddenly shutting down for no reason.
We don’t know if anyone told her of the Locust relation or if Jinn found out herself - I was referring to Kait going off to do her own thing in Act 2 which isn’t certain if Jinn knows she did. But she can probably figure out that Kait did herself since aware of the Locust thing.
But it was Marcus who said Jinn was making a fuss about hooking Kait back up to the hivemind, but no one said if anyone told Jinn about the relation to Myrrah in the first place.
She could’ve told JD and everyone else about her visions and killing Oscar right then and there, but she selfishly kept it secret until telling Del. As far as we know, Del is the only one who knows she killed Oscar.
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Her blood and entrails would be dripping from my chainsaw if I were in Marcus’s place.
Del is a redshirt gear that didn’t deserve the spotlight.
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Whose?
And you’re not Marcus.
If JD pulled and Lizzie kicked with both feet, or just gone out the other door while the HOD beam was nowhere near her…
By the way, if people don’t know, the beam was actually synced to JDs location, so was him running to the trucks what got her killed? Sure Baird lost connection to the satellite, but the last thing he did before pressing fire was “follow this moron’s signal”. Even if it wasn’t synced with Baird’s computer, it was still set to fire near J.D.'s armor signal.
Unsure. Bloodlines seems to indicate the Hammer was completely randomly targeting things in the vincinity rather than JDs armor, with it eventually stopping its strikes somewhere outside the Settlement.
She was probably worried they’d arrest her right there or something.
But not worried she’d be arrested for going to Azura… or New Hope… or Vasgar… yeah, no. She wasn’t worried about a damn thing but herself
Everyone needs to remember the title of the series: “Gears of War.”
What was the theme of the first trilogy? A bunch of soldiers all following orders to fight an evil, genocidal enemy, after generations of following orders and fighting for fuel. Marcus says again and again that he deserved to be in jail, the COG “must’ve had their reasons, even if they weren’t good reasons,” and Marcus respects the chain of command.
Then Prescott ran away, the COG fell apart, Hoffman grew a moral compass thanks to Bernie, and Delta discovered Azura. The COG lied, and was blatantly evil, and it turns out the Locust were just mutated, oppressed humans. (I still don’t like that last part, but it’s canon, so we have to accept it)
It even turns out that the fuel was the real enemy all along.
Despite all of that, Marcus still stabs the Queen and gets little to no satisfaction out of it. He’s left a broken man, who fought all his life and finally has nothing left to fight for. He learned all these lessons about the COG and the Locust, and he ignored some of it, and he killed Myrrah like a good cog in the machine.
Cut to the new trilogy. What are the themes?
Marcus opposes the new COG. JD and Del oppose the new COG. Kait and her family oppose the new COG. Baird works against the new COG from within, while trying to improve it.
The Swarm and Scions are shown to be irredeemable, because they’re unwilling to let humanity live. So even though they had sad origins that were easy to empathize with, they’ve left no room for forgiveness. They would rather die than stop fighting.
OG Delta takes the kids back to Azura: opposing authority because they understand that Jinn is biased.
Everyone finds out JD shot people who might’ve only been attacking robots: JD, understandably, feels guilt. Because his namesake and heroes never shot rioters (Dom charged food rioters and beat them down, but he didn’t shoot them).
Kait realizes that her mind is being attacked by the Swarm. If she goes back to the COG, they’ll dissect her. Marcus backs up her decision to go look for answers, once again opposing authority.
JD and Fahz redeem themselves by coming to Vasgar, behind authority’s back, to do the right thing. They successfully launch the Hammer.
When Fahz asks if someone with “real military authority” should be present to take command of the Hammer, Marcus tells him to ■■■■. Marcus and Delta have decided that “real military authority” has no right to superweapons, and only the calmest, smartest minds should be allowed to use it.
AND FINALLY: last but not least:
When Jinn demands that Kait be arrested, every single member of OG Delta, and every new member, all point their rifles at Jinn.
That moment at the start of Act 4 shows how Gears of War has resolved the themes of the first trilogy, maintained its connective tissue, and grown to explore more important, more relevant themes. The OG Delta characters have all learned that authoritarians are not to be trusted, and soldiers should do more than blindly follow orders. They are no longer cogs in the machine.
Gears of War 5 was about soldiers doing the right thing, even when it might cost them everything, even though they know they have to fight alongside the COG or die.
Also, the Hammer disintegrated a lot of drones who were 50+ feet away from the laser. Getting on top of the minotaur would’ve fried JD or Lizzie within seconds. They did their best in the seconds they had, and it wasn’t enough.
Now, let’s focus on the scene that was stupid and didn’t work: the choice to save JD or Del. Where was JACK?!!?
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