“This isn’t about you, this is about me”

Gears 5
#84

Jinn did technically tell them they had a choice to make, land behind bars or sign back up with the COG with full reinstatement of rank and all charges dropped… but also being pretty much pawns of Jinn.

We also don’t know when she found out about Kait’s Locust relation or about her going off to do her own thing despite JDs orders. Perhaps she understood that Kait having been at risk of turning to the Swarm was a danger that no one should’ve been willing to let persist, but then she is also crazy enough to try hooking Kait back up with the hivemind… so I’m uncertain. Perhaps Jinn didn’t find out at all but that seems very unlikely.

#85

Do they mock each other during a battle?

#86

Never got the chance to find out, I spent my career on standby and cleaning duty.

#87

I’m more annoyed with how terribly the whole scen was handled than the death itself, but it sure doesn’t help it. I get it, being around an unpredictable Hammer of Dawn beam is not an easy situation but aren’t soldiers supposed to keep their calm under stress and not panic and turn stupid trying to open a jammed door when they know they have other options available? It just isn’t thought through.

#88

After the events of Gears 4 Jin wouldnt even have to give them a choice of Jail or full reinstatement. JD and Del knew the trouble and knew they needed the COG.

And too be fair you and I have been through this before with Lizzy so Im not even gonna touch that one with you lol

#89

What death and yeah Lizzie was a better character in twenty minutes than Kait was in 2 games

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#90

Lizzie should have her own dlc no cap

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#91

To be fair, that was Lizzie’s first real war, so she wasn’t battle tested. “This is the Swarm, huh? Not impressed.”

I mean, yeah, she came off as a badass, but it was clear she needed more time in combat.

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#92

Ok, but that doesn’t excuse how the writing took a total dump in that scene just so TC could kill yet another Carmine who was actually promising this time, for JDs character arc when it could’ve been Del who got killed there.

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#93

No, killing Del that early would have been a bad idea. People might not care all that much, but he’s JD’s childhood friend, and carries some importance in the COG. Killing him, a main character over killing Lizzie, a side character wasn’t something they were gonna do.

Especially since he potentially dies at the end of the game anyways.

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#94

It was simply to say that killing Del would have had the same effect of triggering a change in JDs character. Whether it would have been a good decision or not, that’s a different matter entirely.

And I could argue forever about the should and shouldn’t haves on Gears 5 Campaign like the Lizzie scene or the “choice” at the end which isn’t really a choice because TC apparently have a canon ending planned anyway, for 5.

And where is Del’s importance in the COG? Ok, he served with them some time prior and got to the rank of Lieutenant, but he really doesn’t seem very COG-y and like he cares too much about the military organization itself(we don’t even know if Marcus gave him the same advice of not joining up like he gave to JD). But the overall effect it would have seems quite limited if he’d died earlier on. TC could have had a replacement for Del in Act 2 as Kait’s sidekick(hint hint) easily.

And to me combat is a different scenario than getting chased around by an unpredictable Hammer of Dawn beam and everyone’s brains suddenly shutting down for no reason.

#96

We don’t know if anyone told her of the Locust relation or if Jinn found out herself - I was referring to Kait going off to do her own thing in Act 2 which isn’t certain if Jinn knows she did. But she can probably figure out that Kait did herself since aware of the Locust thing.

But it was Marcus who said Jinn was making a fuss about hooking Kait back up to the hivemind, but no one said if anyone told Jinn about the relation to Myrrah in the first place.

#97

She could’ve told JD and everyone else about her visions and killing Oscar right then and there, but she selfishly kept it secret until telling Del. As far as we know, Del is the only one who knows she killed Oscar.

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#98

Her blood and entrails would be dripping from my chainsaw if I were in Marcus’s place.

#99

Del is a redshirt gear that didn’t deserve the spotlight.

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#100

Whose?

And you’re not Marcus.

#101

If JD pulled and Lizzie kicked with both feet, or just gone out the other door while the HOD beam was nowhere near her…
By the way, if people don’t know, the beam was actually synced to JDs location, so was him running to the trucks what got her killed? Sure Baird lost connection to the satellite, but the last thing he did before pressing fire was “follow this moron’s signal”. Even if it wasn’t synced with Baird’s computer, it was still set to fire near J.D.'s armor signal.

#102

Unsure. Bloodlines seems to indicate the Hammer was completely randomly targeting things in the vincinity rather than JDs armor, with it eventually stopping its strikes somewhere outside the Settlement.

#103

She was probably worried they’d arrest her right there or something.

#104

But not worried she’d be arrested for going to Azura… or New Hope… or Vasgar… yeah, no. She wasn’t worried about a damn thing but herself