The Story of Gabe Diaz [Tactics SPOILER Discussion]

I actually like Reyna a decent amount more cause of Tactics not that there was a lot of her in it, but I feel it fleshed her out just enough for her “death” to mean something in 4 (which is good cause last I checked the game was #2 on steam so maybe this will intrigue people enough to care about at least the campaigns on the main installment.)

Sid and Makayla still have potential to be somewhere in Gears 6 (Makayla the most likely I’d say)

I wish they did a little more with Ukkon though, he was just a big bad who gave us stuff to fight

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Well true, but same for Raam, Skorge, Karn and the Speaker and others, only fleshed out later in the comics and whatnot.

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That’s also true, that’s also the reason I hate playing Swarm (aside from Myrrah) as I find it hard to care (even after reading the comics). Spent too much time investing myself in the COG

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Ukkon reminded me a bit of Power Rangers and Rita Repulsa.

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I was dumbfounded by his ability to speak. Felt too clean.

Apparently Ukkon is a Sire, but is like a genetic anomaly in the sense he retained his cognitive faculties and basically became a genius or something. Is that the case? It sounds stupid if that’s the case.

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Well I know the document Sid shows Gabe has references to Sires, but all I remember is that Sid said Ukkon came from New Hope. Not that he was a sire.

I watched it as well, same reason as you.

I enjoyed that the game felt more like Gears of War than Gears 5. However, I also feel like the game at times would lose aspects of that and revert to the modern, less gritty, adventurous generic romp than a game about giant walking tanks fighting giant monsters in armour

I also don’t like how they doubled down on making the Locust a COG creation. Nothing breaks and destroys the monsters in your story than humanizing them (Ukkon speaking perfect Tyran/English) and making them a human creation.

God I miss when the Locust were alluded to being reptilian, underground monsters that finally erupted to cause war. They were a literal swarm of Locust ( see what I did there? :wink: )

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Well making them creations doesn’t humanize them. At least unless you’re speaking literally.

Have viewed on YouTube,(a short view)looks good,But it depends on what price the new X console will cost,if Reasonable then I will buy Gears Tactics

It’ll come to Xbox One and Series X.

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So Myrrah is the problem?

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I don’t mind the Locust’ origins insomuch in that I preferred it when it was a mystery.

I liked that the older games left subtle hints and never explicitly stated what the Locust truly were. A variety of explanations (some more valid than others) could be had, with no piece of evidence made one true beyond the reason of doubt. And while Joveus’ theory was the most solid, there was enough room for debate.

The lack of certainty made it fun to think about, but the Locust became far less interesting (to me) when we know everything about them. Then again, it was bound to come out sooner or later the moment they decided to make more games after Gears of War 3.

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No, turning your entire species of monsters into human creations, cutting their history and potential as a group in half.

Supremely less interesting if your centuries old monsters are actually about 80 years old, aren’t native to the belly of the planet but were created in a lab.

And Myrrah being able to speak perfect English while looking human added to her unique and interesting position back in the day. Now every monster being able to speak perfect just comes off as goofy.

Imagine RAAM and Skorge didn’t speak in their screeching and growls, imagine they both spoke perfect English. That’d have definitely hindered their appearance as badass monsters.

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Ah okay you meant literally human. I thought you meant character-wise.

I personally think it’s interesting, and kinda plausible even.

Considering our own world military history, powerful nations developed immense armies and new weapons within just a few years and were able to conquer. I can totally believe that within close to a century that Locust could develop themselves enough resources to colonize and later begin a conquest on the surface, especially after the Humans had fought a near century long war amongst themselves and that Locust pride themselves on not warring amongst eachother; all for one with the Horde and Queen.

I don’t think it’s everyone though, I think the only ones who can speak Tyran fluently are Myrrah, Ukkon, and the Speakers. I might be missing a few.

Myrrah herself raised a lot of questions for me back in the day like “wtf she’s human, or at least humanoid, how did she get accepted to the fold and become Queen”, “is she a sympathizer”, etc.
As much as I love Myrrah, her authority over the Locust always confused me. Mainly with her appearance and fluent Tyran.

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Many thanks my friend

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Doubled down,? It’s been obvious since gears 2. If they did anything else they would be accused of retconning

Yeah but I think the confusion arises when the ruins of Nexus look old but are actually only 100-80 Years old.

I used to like the idea that the Kantus were natural Locust, that’s why they had these strange abilities unlike Drones or Grenadiers that were designed by Niles—but Ukkon punches a hole in that theory.

This is my first Gears game so Im new to the story. I kind of looked it up on story about who the Locust are so I ruined it for myself but I think the Locust are that master race again you see in scifi movies and fantasy (Lord of the Rings with Urukhai or Star Wars with Clones and Exo Squad cartoon with Neospaiens its in Space Above and Beyond and Battlestar Galactica too). Just from small part I read trying not to ruin it for myself I think some of these Locust were humans once and are traced to this older race of Locust I cant remember and stopped there hoping a sequel comes out explaining this in detail a little more.

Do any of the Locust ever side with Terrans? If they put it in the story the Locust were bred for warfare.

No the Locust never aid humans (other than Myrrah) and never in-fight (other than bestial locusts)

If you want to know the stories of the Locust play through the original trilogy then Gears 4/5. Tactics just adds on more information but 2/5 give us the most I think.

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