The Story of Gabe Diaz [Tactics SPOILER Discussion]

Gears Tactics
#5

This is just my theory but with what we learned in 5 makes more sense to me now but I could be completely wrong lol

I think Niles had completed his research well before the Pendulum Wars started. Governments had to be working on a cure before the war started. Only Niles and some secret members of the COG government saw the “value” in his work which resulted in a 2nd secret facility. If the war was going on I think more of the higher ups in the COG would have thought Niles work would help them win the war.

Not sure if this makes any sense lol.

#6

I guess, the strangest problem to me is not having a timeline of when Niles was alive vs his AI, when Monroe was Chairman for so many years before Prescott, and when New Hope was started to begin with.

#7

Spoiler alert

I also watch all the cutscenes of Tactics and I honestly don’t like the story. Ukkon who comes back from the dead through rustlung / imulsion don’t fit in the original lore of Gears of War. And I don’t even talk about him being a Seran scientist…

For the rest of the story = pure fan service by linking Tactics to G4-5. So nothing more interesting either. I mean, the G4-G5 timeline is not worth digging. We all loved G5 for the Act 2 and 4 because of the lore, but the rest is useless.

At the end, Tactics only impressed me through its customization system.

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#8

I’d rather see them go full steam ahead and try to make something out of it than cowering back on themselves and watching it collapse like the SW movies. I think it’s interesting enough for me to enjoy it. But the game is about Kait’s father–I don’t see where the “fan service” comes in, Reyna’s not exactly a fan favorite, it just shows us how the two got together before Gears 4.

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#9

Bloodline Spoilers Again (Sorry cant use the blur spoiler option for some reason)

Not having a timeline is definitely strange, but seeing that Hoffmans 90 years old and still able to push himself around in a wheelchair with no real problems and steal secret military documents (Bloodlines) seems to me that hes in the “early” stage of old age. So the time between when the lightmass process(end of the Era of Silence), The Gold Rush and the Start of the Pendulum Wars is probably a couple hundred years at least

#10

I guess that’s fair. Assuming Serans live to be 80-120 years old, and the Pendulum Wars only lasted 80 Years, and New Hope was shut down under Monroe’s control–that Niles could’ve been there his whole life if he died around 70-100 years old.

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#11

I actually like Reyna a decent amount more cause of Tactics not that there was a lot of her in it, but I feel it fleshed her out just enough for her “death” to mean something in 4 (which is good cause last I checked the game was #2 on steam so maybe this will intrigue people enough to care about at least the campaigns on the main installment.)

Sid and Makayla still have potential to be somewhere in Gears 6 (Makayla the most likely I’d say)

I wish they did a little more with Ukkon though, he was just a big bad who gave us stuff to fight

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#12

Well true, but same for Raam, Skorge, Karn and the Speaker and others, only fleshed out later in the comics and whatnot.

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#13

That’s also true, that’s also the reason I hate playing Swarm (aside from Myrrah) as I find it hard to care (even after reading the comics). Spent too much time investing myself in the COG

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#14

Ukkon reminded me a bit of Power Rangers and Rita Repulsa.

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#15

I was dumbfounded by his ability to speak. Felt too clean.

#16

Apparently Ukkon is a Sire, but is like a genetic anomaly in the sense he retained his cognitive faculties and basically became a genius or something. Is that the case? It sounds stupid if that’s the case.

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#17

Well I know the document Sid shows Gabe has references to Sires, but all I remember is that Sid said Ukkon came from New Hope. Not that he was a sire.

#18

I watched it as well, same reason as you.

I enjoyed that the game felt more like Gears of War than Gears 5. However, I also feel like the game at times would lose aspects of that and revert to the modern, less gritty, adventurous generic romp than a game about giant walking tanks fighting giant monsters in armour

I also don’t like how they doubled down on making the Locust a COG creation. Nothing breaks and destroys the monsters in your story than humanizing them (Ukkon speaking perfect Tyran/English) and making them a human creation.

God I miss when the Locust were alluded to being reptilian, underground monsters that finally erupted to cause war. They were a literal swarm of Locust ( see what I did there? :wink: )

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#19

Well making them creations doesn’t humanize them. At least unless you’re speaking literally.

#20

Have viewed on YouTube,(a short view)looks good,But it depends on what price the new X console will cost,if Reasonable then I will buy Gears Tactics

#21

It’ll come to Xbox One and Series X.

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#22

??

So Myrrah is the problem?

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#23

I don’t mind the Locust’ origins insomuch in that I preferred it when it was a mystery.

I liked that the older games left subtle hints and never explicitly stated what the Locust truly were. A variety of explanations (some more valid than others) could be had, with no piece of evidence made one true beyond the reason of doubt. And while Joveus’ theory was the most solid, there was enough room for debate.

The lack of certainty made it fun to think about, but the Locust became far less interesting (to me) when we know everything about them. Then again, it was bound to come out sooner or later the moment they decided to make more games after Gears of War 3.

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#24

No, turning your entire species of monsters into human creations, cutting their history and potential as a group in half.

Supremely less interesting if your centuries old monsters are actually about 80 years old, aren’t native to the belly of the planet but were created in a lab.

And Myrrah being able to speak perfect English while looking human added to her unique and interesting position back in the day. Now every monster being able to speak perfect just comes off as goofy.

Imagine RAAM and Skorge didn’t speak in their screeching and growls, imagine they both spoke perfect English. That’d have definitely hindered their appearance as badass monsters.

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