The state of Casual PvP. Just stop this and fix it, TC

Can’t stand bot backfilling I always used to quit when bots arrived especially on guardian, zero satisfaction

It should simply be 5v5 and the game shouldn’t automatically start until say at least 4 players are on each team

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I don’t like botfilling either per se but I’ve found so many Quickmatch games sit in limbo struggling to populate with outnumbered players getting fed up and quitting. With bots in their as distractions I think persons are less likely to quit and a proper game full of players more likely to ensue.

I think Quickplay should have been left 5 v 5 with bot backfilling for KOTH only.

Leave 4 v 4 to Ranked only.

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I thought quickplay was just a casual non-serious game mode where you’re going in and playing against other players (who should never be bots imo). To me the current state fills those purposes perfectly.

Like what exactly are you playing for? What’s on the line? The other team should know that you’re down a man and unlikely to win because of it. Ego shouldn’t even be a factor. And the ranking system doesn’t care because it doesn’t apply.

Sometimes it’s actually fun to be down a man because it’s more of a challenge but that’s beside the point I suppose.

one way or another, gears has always had annoying things with multiplayer aside from gears 3 and that is why so many loved that game

just let us play ffs

Agreed. Many times we were down a man and the other team just didn’t care and would destroy us other times we’ve beaten the other team because they were just awful. It kinda baffles me though when a 4 stack plays quick play just to pub stomp, but that’s not always the case, I’m always up for the challenge

Tbf cos guardian isn’t in ranked that can be sweaty as hell :rofl:

Gonna make it worse with that new tuning

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yeah i know what you mean by playing coop vs ai instead of 1v3 koth, but many times you don’t want to play vs AI , you wanna play against real people, it’s quite crazy such change was done

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Bots are so annoying, don’t want them back personally, but unfortunately with how few people are playing the game they kind of are necessary at times.

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I wish they would put FFA in quickplay.

True Skill MM??? Why would anyone want that? And if there was skill based matchmaking in Quickplay, what would be the point in having ranked?

I agree with OP, Ranked is Ranked, and QP is QP, they don’t NEED to have matching settings. QP is to hop in and out and shoot people for a good time, it does not need to play like a ranked match. 5v5 or 4v4 works, but bots need to return. The amount of quitters in QP (which is acceptable considering that’s the point of quickplay), teams need the bots to give that team a standing chance at winning, or even just to stay afloat. Were bots annoying? Sure! Then the solution is to nerf them slightly, not remove them. This game, sadly, isn’t as populated as it needs to be to survive without bot backfilling. Sometimes it takes minutes, sometimes the rest of the match for 1 person to join in and fill that slot. The amount of games I’ve had that ended due to the other team quitting is absurd since the launch of Op 5.

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Yes this new beta tunning is awful… I’ve played the game 8 years if you add this tunning loads of people are going to go

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this game is for casuals ! so what rules ?

Social KOTH sucks so hard that I only play ranked to ensure I get a 4 v 4 match.
We need bots for KOTH, leave TMD alone without bots.

Thanks

No, 4 stacks play quick play because their only option in ranked is KOTH.

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That’s not true at all. I for one love the beta tuning and can’t wait for it to be added to the full game. I’ve also talked to a few people/friends and they say they barely play now, but will once the current beta tuning is added.

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Well you’re certainly in the minority there

Am I?

It seems like it.

When did you try the beta tuning tho… As I played the other night and it is noticeably sped up from where it was a few weeks ago.

I couldn’t stand how slow it was before but now I don’t mind the general speed. Weapon switching still felt slow but the actual speed of the player movements have been increased inside the beta.