Disheartening when you work out that to get 8 million coins is 4000 Brumak.
And 19 to 20 will be 8 million roughly depending on what you’ve levelled.
Once you start maxing out pins (which you will need to do) 8 million coins is nowhere near 4000 horde matches. I can’t remember exact since I have deleted my numbers after completing this before any help but I want to say it was 276 bronze, 27 silver, 4 gold. Each bronze turns into 5 coins, silver 50 and gold 1000. Plus the 2300ish per match anyway. Even without the gold max collected you should get bronze/silver mostly maxed which would give around 5250 per brumak. That would only mean 1500 brumak not 4k to make 8 million. This is NOT counting, daily bounties, weekly clan, PVP events etc. Near the end of the long grind I was raking in 1.4 million plus a day with the golds being maxed.
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Yeah. I’m just not sure I’d get a pin maxed till I’ve played another few thousand hordes to begin with.
Then it may yes go down.
I need 57,000 commons as my closest pin to 20. Let alone getting multiples there.
That’s gonna take many many hordes just to get to that one done.
It’s 200 hordes if I was only getting that pin. So obviously diluting across other pins, equates to many many more runs.
Trust me I know. I did 11,400 from 18>20. I almost wish I waited…but I didn’t trust that something would get done and would rather have gotten it done because I don’t have much time anymore with work.
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Thats my logic around the cog changes. You still have to win to get to gold, but its fair less punishing if you lose one or two in a row. A win rate of like .3+ will eventually get you there.
Assuming I always do the 3 daily quests, which I would be a fool not to, I think I’ll end up with enough coins for 20 before maxing a bronze pin. I think you’re around the same point I’m at, so I wouldn’t worry too much about coins and instead just focus on trying to get a max pin.
Most definetly agree. If we won more cogs and lost a few, this would be a big deal and would help a lot!
Wanted to share an idea that I hadn’t seen here yet. What about getting rid of the green and purple crates? Giving 3 gold crates for a brumak horde would be a big boost in pins and coins but would still require people to play a lot of matches. I haven’t run the numbers to see how big of a boost that would be but IMO it fits in between the “you’re just giving it away” and “please give it away” crowds.
Also, wanted to say thanks for the last update as it will be a big help. Looking at the spreadsheet to track progress, I jumped from 51% of the way to lvl 20 to 76%. Gonna keep grinding away.
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Similar in many ways to just doubling what all pin drops are in chests and other sources etc
Just for people saying that we shouldn’t get anymore help with gears pop, that achievements from this series never change and shouldn’t, no help is given
Just boot up gears 5 with the new XP system, there is absolute MASSIVE help to get to re up 40.
The precedent has been set in that game for the amount of help being given. Gears 5 also doesn’t disappear in just under 80 days.
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Winter 12s are by far the best thumper to get pins/coin from. It’s a shame they’re so hard to attain, but I can 100% confirm you can get them from Brumak 8s. It is rare, but you can get them, so you can farm them that way, but it’s very unreliable. Farming them via BBs isn’t very reliable either, as you don’t always get a lot, no matter how many you actually run.
When the BB horde wkend happened, that was the best time to get them. Some of my crew members received over 100 winter 12s from that horde event, and they then use those with people within the crew. I try and do about 20-30 winters a day, more if I can, but as I said they can be hard to come by.
I’ve made the suggestion before, and i’ll say it again. They should put all varieties of thumper for purchase within the store, then you can buy whatever ones you want, and run them. It would make a lot of sense for people with crystals, and allow people a further chance of finishing the game quicker.
I can also confirm what others have said about maxing pins out, once you’ve done 1, you’ll find you will max 5-7 very quickly. All the extra coin quickly adds up, and you will continue to max the common pins, likely being left with 3 that are much harder to max out.
To those that cannot do what is required, we understand and we feel your pain. But sometimes there are unobtainable cheevos, sometimes because of skill, sometimes because of other reasons. There will be winners and there will be losers. That’s life. TC/MT have already massively helped with what they’ve done, I didn’t/don’t need the help and I would’ve made it, but it would’ve been a much bigger grind than it is now. I’ve likely gone up around 10k in XP in a matter of days because of these changes.
The player who has 9000 crystals, tbf you’d be better off buying the bundle in the shop x10, than using it for 2.5m coins. Just my opinion, but i’d say that would get you closer sooner, than using it for the coin. Playing horde, you can make coin pretty quickly, so get a few max pins completed, and you’ll get even more coin. And you’ll likely max more pins in the process, which leads to even more coin.
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I’ve done over 500 Brumak runs since the update, and have not got a single winter 12 from them.
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Ive only ever gotten winter 8 from brumak 8.
Not that it matters winter 12 will dc 90% of the time anyway wasting the thumper. @TC_Kilo1062 can that be looked into please why this thumper in particular drops out way more than any other? Its always between waves and sometimes says partner has left whilst displaying your score so you get no rewards despite completion. Very infuriating.
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What was done so far is a help, but more is needed. After years of grind I am still not close to getting it and now with about 2 months left I fear that unless something more is done, that is it for me. Sadly. I really do not want any unobtainable achievements. The game is no longer for profit, so at least it could be updated before the end to push over the last few people who need to complete it. I see no harm in doing that as a thanks to the dedicated players who stuck it out until the end
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The only next steps I foresee them potentially taking are,
-Half all pin requirements
-Double all omens (Effectively making gold as hard as it currently is to hit Silver)
Both of these will still require us to play. I don’t need the gold rank but I’m not going to pretend it’s not much harder to get since they added casual mode.
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I do think upping the omens received would be nice. But it won’t make it any easier.
Let’s say at the moment your last 10 games to reach gold are not possible/hard - because you’ll be up against top tier players, high level pins etc etc.
If omen rewards were doubled. They’d still be sat up near 3500+
So it’d just mean 5 games near the top would be getting matched against those players.
Your final match to hit gold would be against a level 18/19 who’s always up at Gold.
Whether you are at 3500 or 3590. It’s not easier.
(To put it another way. A lot of the players struggling to hit gold are saying they can’t get past 3200 ish. So unable to hit 3220 from a single win for example. If the omens are upped to 50 per win.
How will they now be able to win at 3200, to make it to 3250.
It’s the same difficulty. Bigger rewards are no use if they’re in that range 3300-3600 where they can’t compete).
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Pop reduced their leveling requirements by (at max) 75%…think it is fair to say that is substantial even if it is still a ridiculous grind.
And as it reduced time to play for max level before the gears 5 update today, technically pop is the precedent for the gears 5 changes.
Plus, gears 5 still requires 100k versus kills 
reup 40 might be solved, but 100+ hours of boosting those kills or years of playing is not.
Doubling the omens would make it (almost) twice as easy as it is now. By the end of the month, the ‘top tier’ players aren’t after gold but the leaderboard position rewards. Seeing as the omens are doubled in this scenario, instead of battling it out at 3600 for the top 300, they’d be battling it out 4400. Obviously that will have no effect on everyone just trying to get to 3600.
Basically it would make achieving gold the same as achieving Silver today. As this is a skill based achievement, if someone can’t get Silver in the month then I don’t personally think anything else should be done to help them. I got to gold in all the early months of the game, and man it was difficult. The tactics are so much more important.
Edit: There are players with lvl 8 Sid and they didn’t have any problems.
I read on TA forums that a player had a problem with Sid OHKO after getting him at lvl 8.
I knew that a low lvl Sid can’t do his special move, but I didn’t know that a higher lvl can’t do it too
Dude, 500 brumaks is small fry. Like i’ve said, I’ve had them from Brumak 8s, but it’s very very rare. Winter 12s are like rocking horse poo at times.
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