@the coalition please-why is low ping at such a disadvantage?

Gears 5
#87

Your bandwidth is fine unless somebody decides to stream 4K video while you play games. That’s also assuming you’re not on DSL which has major issues during peak times in most areas.

On the other hand, I have about 47x the amount of bandwidth you do on a Fiber line and I have a ton of issues. Beyond a certain mbps it really doesn’t matter so long as the game is getting the allotted bandwidth that it needs. But look at this - many have connected their mobile hotspot, which is more inconsistent than their Fiber line, and reported a much better experience in Gears 5. On the other hand, other games performed worse. That’s a telling sign.

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#88

Right but does that means bandwidth only factors into experience if someone else is using the connection to stream stuff?

I am using port forwarding and a Ethernet cable plugged from my Xbox into the modem (no router).

#89

My download is around 700-800 range but how u got ur upload damn near the same as dL my upload is almost always way lower…not that I upload much to care just curious

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#90

That depends.

If you have 20mbps and it’s consistently that high then it would be fine unless someone is also using your bandwidth and causes it to hit its limit. This would cause many issues. However, depending on your internet type, you may experience lower bandwidth and inconsistent performance during certain hours of the day. A DSL connection is known for this and there’s really no way around this unless you switched to Cable or Fiber. I’m not sure what connection type you have so I can’t really say for sure.

In my case, on Fiber, I don’t share a line with anyone. I get a consistent Gigabit connection that isn’t affected by others. On Cable and DSL, you do and if one has an issue in their house line it could create an issue for everyone connected to them. I experienced this on Cable myself.

#91

My ISP used to do 940/250 but about 6 months ago or so they went symmetrical.

#92

Gotcha I figured it was an isp issue just wasn’t sure

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#93

So we still need an answer to why your experience is so terrible and mine is not. And you said it’s not the bandwidth. Do you know which Gears 5 server is closest to you?

#94

Central US

Which runs perfectly fine if everyone is below 80ms and stable. Add in a higher ping and /or fluctuations and it breaks.

#95

That also has not been my experience. I’m also in the same region and have had matches where player ping has gone up into the hundreds to 1000 or even more and spiked around frequently.

So it seems the in-game ping display is not a good indication of the experience that one should expect in a match.

There’s something else going on here.

#96

Yeah, it’s an unknown issue with no answer. I find that if I’m below 20ms in those high ping matches the game feels like I’m on a 250ms. If I have a 40-50ms against those same pings it’ll feel like the smoothest game ever. It makes no sense but it is what it is.

Also, I find KotH has the worst issues of any mode. Not that it should matter but teleporting and sponging is much more common there than say Guardian.

#97

Both those game types are stable for me :thinking:

Very weird.

#98

What rank tiers do you play in?

I’m curious if there are just less quality connections in the higher tiers. When I play against lower tiers the connection is much better but the pings tend to be much lower too. But my main tier is the upper (Masters in Guardian and KotH) and that’s where issues seem to be more common.

Like, if a low rank friend joins me, the pings are always more stable and lower. It feels like the higher ranks, which is obviously more limited, has the worst connections.

#99

Maybe.

I am Silver 1 or 2 in everything except 2v2.

I am Onyx 3 in 2v2.

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#100

Like krylon…im on pure fiber. Low ping isnt always a prob. The game plays great when everybody is playing on a stable connection. And the bedt games are when everybody is 0-50ms. In a dream world we would only matchmake in 50 ms groupings. 1-50 me. 51-100ms. 101-150ms. After that. Quickplay only. Amd stable ping only. Imo, if anybody is swinging wildly with their ping, it really hoses the match. But letting a dude play in ranked w/ping over 350ms is absurd. Their has to be a cutoff no matter how badly you need players.

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#101

My discussion with @Krylon_Blue leads me to believe this is not the case because my matches where ping varies widely (hundreds to thousands difference) I have no penalty to my experience. And I am always the person with low ping.

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#102

@Nineteenth_Hour I was editing. Ping stability plays a much larger role in this. Anyone unstable screws it all up.

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#103

Still not the case for me as you can see from previous posts. In matches where other players’ pings are spiking all over the place, my experience is unchanged.

Then again I am an UNREASONABLY lucky person in general so it’s normal.

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Aim and Popshot on mid range
#104

I’m just glad there are people who can have a civil conversation about these issues rather than turning it into a war of who’s just terrible at the game, lol.

Let’s face it, online gaming isn’t perfect. There will be differing experiences. But the fact our experiences are so different while living within the same region is quite odd. :thinking:

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#105

Like I said I am a lucky person in regular life so it makes sense that the luck is affecting my PvP experience :smile:

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Are things really so different since Gears of War 2?
#106

Man, tonight was abysmal. 3 matches and not one felt even decent. One match in Exhibit the enemy had the stick and he used it through two covers and killed me. Next spawn against the same enemy and two others I swung it twice at point blank and got no kills but I died.

…like really?