637 posts and I’ve seen about ten people if that defending the new tune everyone else seams to hate it, rightly so in my opinion anyway I won’t lie I have been logging on and having a game of koth here and there in the hopes ill like it I’ve got used to the new tune and still think its horrid people that say slow is more skillful clearly doesn’t play at the master level acting like reaction shots and mega high pace and bouncing isn’t difficult to time aim and hit shots is just ridiculous now I feel like the game is so stupidly easy and boring no fun what so ever
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This is the NUMBER 1 PROBLEM.
The amount of people who actually care about the Pro Scene - and how they want/need the game to work/play,
Versus,
People who just want:
1). Fun
2). Working Ranking System
3). Play With Friends, for Fun
Is huge, I couldn’t care less about the minute details of having everything so tinkered with that we now have a MESS.
Have a separate Mode, like Gears 4, for Competitive/Pro Play.
It was such an unpopular opinion, probably still is however if TC want to keep pushing the tiny audience for eSports - then we need to separate that from MP.
Gears 4 had Comp & Core and it meant I could ignore whatever was happening in Comp and just play KOTH, 5v5, with weapons that do damage & movement that was 90% good.
Gears 5 should have improved on that.
These select few individuals are the only ones TC is listening to and it’s ended up being at the point where the game is at the exact opposite of where it needs to be to when it comes to being fun.
Most people, like I said,
Get on with friends, want to have fun.
The absolute sweaty matches - is a tiny proportion of the community yet everything is catered for them.
Game is so dull right now.
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eSports Players & (I’m sorry but true) Wannabe Pro Players are so far away from what makes a fun game - it’s hurting the entire community.
Only a very small portion are “liking this”.
But that’s not going to do the game any favours.
Like I said many times,
Remove skins and see how many viewers tune into eSports.
Probably low couple hundred if that.
The game, franchise isn’t anywhere near big enough to draw a crowd.
TC need to focus on expanding the player base before chasing a pro scene.
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that is the problem, ‘‘THEY SAID’’ ‘’ and ‘’ OWN PRIVATE INFORMATION THAT SHOWS THE SUPPORT FOR IT’’
these things drive me crazy because if they say the positive response was so overwhelming why 90% of players are complaining? simple, because TC does what it wants… they don’t care. I miss EPIC, at least Gears had a soul
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and look, it isn’t like gears is a game like apex legends where the game you play in ranked is the game they play in tournaments.
esca isnt even in ranked. esca 1.0, esca 2.0, esca beta and the failed attempt to integrate gridiron
like i said, gears will shine through the common player and nothing more
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Haven’t made a thread or commented in a while as Gears 5 hasn’t interested me that much outside of doing some daily challenges. But i’m going to be perfectly honest here, i really dislike the new tuning to Gears 5.
I can deal with the slow movement and things like the weapon swap speed as i play a lot of the older Gears games often, but the delays to the weapons when shooting are a complete deal breaker for me.
I feel like a lot of The Coalitions feedback is very misconstrued due to a number of reasons.
Firstly, i think a lot of people including myself had kind of stopped caring for the most part and were content with what was in the game tuning wise, it wasn’t perfect but it was playable and enjoyable for the most part.
The health omen is a good example of what i’m trying to say, while the new health omen is functional, myself and a lot of others much prefer the old style health omen. I don’t think that’s changed at all but how many threads or comments do you see asking for the old health omen to be added?. You don’t, because people know The Coalition wont add it back and asking them to do so will just fall on deaf ears and you’re just wasting your time.
I gave feedback for the tuning for the first 9 months of the games release and it all got thrown out the window.
I don’t care to do that all again when in liklihood this tuning will also be changed yet again, it seems endless.
Secondly, how The Coalition receive feedback. There’s a game called Old School Runescape, i don’t play it myself but i have a friend who does and he told me about their in-game voting system. They have polls in the game and they have to pass 75% for whatever it is you’re voting for to be added into the game. So a vast majority of the community has to like and agree with it to be added, not just a majority so 60% or so but a Vast majority. This avoids for the most part mass rants and dislikes because the deciding factor is more clear and easy to understand.
When it comes to The Coalitions feedback for Gears 5, there’s multiple places they take their feedback from.
None of these places are the best ways to gain feedback in my opinion and peoples feedback can be misinterpreted very easily. For example, if a “pro” player likes something, then a lot of other players may like it too even though they might not even play the game anymore.
If you had an in-game voting system, that means that the feedback you’re receiving would be from players who actually load up the game and play. You could also set limits such as if you wanted to vote on the beta tuning playlist, you would have to play at least 4 or so hours worth, before you were able to vote. Instead you’re collecting feedback from indirect places and from people who might not even play or care about the game and just vote yes or no because they think it sounds bad or good.
Thirdly, streamers, influencers and the esport scene. I get the impression that The Coalition regard feedback from these people far higher than you’re average player who just enjoys the game. Even if most players are unhappy with a change, if influencers and people from the esports scene are liking it then that clouds a lot of the feedback being given, even if the majority is negative.
I want to give an example here, please don’t say who this person is if you know who they are, this isn’t a callout.
There’s a certain streamer on twitch, who has relentlessly trashed The Coalition since Gears 5 had released.
Dana had even given him a shout-out on a stream, although i think if Dana had any idea how much smack he had said about The Coalition and even toward Dana himself i almost guarantee you he wouldn’t have.
This particular streamer messaged The Coalition constantly as far as i’m aware to add the beta tuning into the main game. The Coalition then added the beta tuning and this streamer played one game of ranked KOTH and just called the game trash and left. Why are people who enjoy for the most part playing the game ignored for people like this?. Again as i said this isn’t a callout, i haven’t said a name. Please don’t say who it is if you know i don’t want this comment removed or edited.
And lastly the fourth reason being, i don’t feel like The Coalition know exactly what they want from Gears 5.
They listen to a lot of feedback and try to account for everyone’s play styles, but ultimately don’t know what the end goal is for Gears 5. If this tuning is what The Coalition think is best and what they want Gears 5 to be, then they need to say it. The entirety of Gears 5 has been a beta test for Gears 6 i feel, which is fine because it shows they’re at least trying. But there needs to be a cut off point.
The most enjoyable time i’ve had on Gears 5 would be just before Operation 3 released, so the beginning of March 2020. Was the tuning perfect, no, but it was enjoyable at the very least and the Gnasher was consistent. If The Coalition had not changed the tuning since then and said that was is that, no more tuning changes, i’d be fine.
But a year and a half into this game we’re still here, taking one step forward and two steps back.
So with everything being said, i don’t like the new tuning very much, i don’t mind the movement or the weapon swap speed changes but the delays to the weapons i can’t deal with. It’s not fun, it may be more balanced but if it’s not fun then i don’t want to play it. Just my 2 cents, either way, i’m kind of done caring to be totally honest.
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Couldn’t agree with you more…
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i can’t test this new tune as the netcode is still f###ed!!! Same broken game it’s just abit slower
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Hitting shots during fast movements require skill, catering to new players and making tuning changes of slowing down movement and also putting that tuning into Ranked is nonsense, steadily update after update there is more slower movement.
With the Dev Playlist , see what can work for newcomers and also ranked,
move tuning changes for Newcomers into Social Quickplay modes
and only meaningful changes into Ranked.
Game currently feels like we all are rookies now learning everything in slow mode
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Honestly, the weapon tuning isn’t as bad as I thought it’d be. The movement just feels so weighty & sluggish, it feels like I’m constantly getting hit with stopping power.
I’ll probably get used to it eventually, but it’s gonna take a bit.
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I dont mind about any weapons changes, nerf it all to marshmallow level or make it launch a nukes - idc. Just give me a freedom to move. Gears was one of a few games after legendary Quake 3 Arena where we can feel it. And now its gone. Just another game, nothing special.
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As an OG I like the tuning. I don’t really like how roadie runs are slowed down though. Makes you feel like you’re going nowhere half the time and on bigger maps like regency it’s even worse. The lancer doing even less damage is a mixed bag to me cause it makes it so solo queuers can have an easier time against full stacks not really getting lancered down everywhere by one person but at the end of the day team lancers will still get the job done and full stacks will do that if need be. Finding a full team for yourself is easy with LFG so no one should really complain about it.
This update won’t last though with this overwhelming amount of hate for it. They’ll tweak the movement and say they made it a tad bit faster but then it’ll be too fast again. All I’ll say is wallbouncing does indeed take skill and the ability to hit your shots of the bounce takes more skill cause anyone can bounce honestly. The problem was it started to turn into people just bouncing Willy nilly without being punished for it. Having no aim but bouncing their way to an Up A to rob you and get an insta gib. I know kill cams aren’t accurate but still watch them. Most of the time you die people aren’t even really hitting you like that lol all of those prior shots are smokescreens so they can hyperbounce their way to you and do some wrap around nonsense
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I really like this summing up, doesn’t feel too much slower to me and I agree with this video. You can skip the first 10 minutes of server issues 
Only think I’m not happy with is the rifles. The rest I can get used to.
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What is so hard about having 2 tunings? The comp guys play a lot of private matches and even have their own private ranked league right now. Give them the option of this tuning in private matches and let the diehard casuals have the previous. tuning. Or the tuning from the end of Op 2(the best to date). This isnt rocket science. Comp players want 1 tuning and non comp players want fast wide open non delayed as crazy as it gets tuning. Just do that. Problem solved. TC will re-invent the wheel 5 times before figuring out the original wheel was fine.
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Gears 5 is back up to #39 in the most played games chart, so I guess the community is starting to warm to the new tuning.
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I looked through some of the older beta playlists threads and the feedback was revert it back and the sky is falling down.
Now in this thread it’s “last tuning was near perfect”
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while this tuning isn’t 100% ideal because shot delays, it’s the best one we got so far
in my opinion they should work on slide and cancel timings rather than having a neutral standing character that can’t shoot
it does not make sense if you’re perfectly standing but still unable to shoot
I’d love to see braking timing for the slide cancel
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Initially I didn’t think it was that bad but I’ve jumped on today and it’s awful. It feels like slow motion. Such a disappointment.
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Exactly!!!
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Why change the movement ? It was perfect before ! Please stop catering to theses noob players ! Gears of war is all about fast pace movement , where you can outplay and clip on people . Now you can’t outplay at all ! You rarely get a triple kill now ! I’ve been playing gears 4 Sense the update , and let me tell you it’s way better than 5 now . Haha this game is dead to me , everyone lets go to gears of war 4!
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