Agreed. 2 v 2 was the only game mode ive played the last 2 n half to 3 month. The movement is very apparent in 2 v 2 out of any other mode because you rely in your movement more than anything else especially when your parnter dies. You literally cant escape to try and isolate the 2 players.
Blind firing has went to S hit . Pop shotting is so slow and inaccurate now.
2 v2 was my favorite game mode and have 0 interest in playing it now. It just isnt fun anymore. Clutching ( 2v 1) is very rare now unless u in close and both opponents are reloading. And i say tht because tht was thee one time i was able to clutch. I recorded it and rewatched the clip and was thinking. " how the F did i even survive and kill both of them. " i was moving and bouncing insanely slow. It was cringy af
I supposed I would be POâd if Iâd practiced an arcane skill (wall bouncing) to the point of perfection, then had the developers tweak it in the name of ⌠something. It would be nice if the ultimate goal / philosophy of the behaviors was specâd at the start and behavior modifications were targeted at achieving the goal - then left the frag alone.
I am not a fan of modes that encourage wall bouncing cover, blind shots and bopping around to some kid of odd dance while moving. But that doesnât mean theyâre bad or wrong or whatever. Thatâs why I like G5, because it offers a lot of options.
Developers like to tweak - thatâs what they do. TC management needs to have some control over this obviously; they might be part of the problem (patients running the Asylum). Sometimes you have to know when youâre done.
Derrick
you do realize 1v2ing is supposed to be difficult? you actually have to outplay people now with more than just mechanical skill and people in this thread are saying the games more noob friendly LOL
This game is 10x more noob friendly, you can botwalk and clutch 1v2s, which takes very little to no skill. I think you are now at a disadvantage the more you wall bounce, strafe now, like others have stated which is just terrible imo.
Your 100% correct
Wall bouncing will get you killed more often than not. U have a better chance of just walking in a straight line. ( WHO DOES THT? OR WHO THE HELL WOULD WANT THAT)
THIS AINT PUB G.
Whts next. We will be able to build walls in operation 4?
Those who think wall bouncing is mindlessâŚhahahahaha yeah, we arent kids and it isnt mindless. Maybe some are talking about that stupid hyper bounce but strategically bouncing and using momentum to break up a group like a pinball going into bumpers isnt mindless.
I find it rather humorous how the tactic is belittled.
And to clarify, I used to take great joy in making g2 bouncers rage quit with my hammerburst or trick them into a lancer dual to then bounce them down like a boxer jabbing the ribs to soften up for the heavy blow.
Wall bouncing is sleight of hand and it took me some time playing this game to see that.
Dont like the bounce then you dont like gears. Simple as that.
Ive been getting that too. In 2v2. Every second shot didnt seem to register but my shot gun shell depleted. I thought i was the only one
I had to quit. This update is horrible. Feels like half the time I hit a button it takes forever to respond.
If youâre getting 1v2d by people bot walking that says a lot more about you than the update
absolutely agree. end of op2 was actually fun!
i am no longer playing after this update.
I totally agree with this. Ranked is still broken, I normally play solo and everytime I search for a match, most of the time I got teamed up with people who hasnt even re-up once⌠and for the enemy team⌠a full clan⌠of course we got destroyed⌠thats negative 500+ points (even if i got the MVP). also, i dont know how âwin pointsâ works, but , after the update I am getting 0 points in most matches I win (MVP of course, and with enemy team âfavoredâ), hopefully, most of you have the same experience.
And one more thing⌠I feel the gnasher way more inconsistent than usualâŚ
Lmao okay keep acting high and mighty. No usually I outplay them, by 1v2, strafing around. But there are times I get outplayed by someone bot walking because they made the game like that. To cater to New players, less skilled players, probably like you. There are also times that Iâve clutched 1v4, 1v5âs against sweaty people in exe, that have been playing gb/esl/umg for 5+years, that says a lot more about me 
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Bot walking is also a skill, if you know what youâre doing.
Anyway,
You sound like a good player,
Post some stats?
Iâm intrigued.
I didnât ask but okay lol
Yes I agree that is actually true, bot walking is a skill, if you referring to moving right analog around, walk dodging. But I should of been more clear, I was referring to less-experienced players walking towards you and shooting, not moving right analog, and their pellets hit you stronger for some reason, Even though I already shot twice, one hit mid range, and 2nd shot after strafe blindfire, (pellets show hit), but get chunked In 1 shot, lmao. And yeah when I get off work home and download the game again.
You know what, Iâm sorry I think I read your comment wrong. After re-reading my original comment, I realize you werent referring to me, I dont think so anyways, lol. Sorry for coming off hostile, lol.
Get me a job at your work, dam 
For that much disposable income Iâd crawl over 10 miles of broken glass and rusted nails
Glad to see so many of you are leaving, now maybe we can read the forums without the constant whining.