TC needs to fix Kait's character for Gears 6

Gears 5
#21

Sure, but his character doesn’t exactly get a lot of development throughout the games, especially not in Gears 1, and you have to read the books(or dig through the wiki, or read posts of the more knowledgeable lore nerds on this forum) to get a better understanding of his character because Epic intended him as “fully developed” when introduced in Gears 1. Something that Traviss managed to squeeze a few things out of in Gears 3 though.

And I stand by my point that I do not see how or why Kait needs to be “improved” or “fixed” to be a ‘shining beacon of feminism’(:roll_eyes:) when that does not seem to be the point of her character… and she’s perfectly fine within the universe as it currently exists. You know, unless you want to push certain types of agendas or politics in a video game where they don’t have much business unless it’s subtle digs at certain things that don’t take away from the experience(which trying to be “progressive” with female characters isn’t in a few games where they’re just unrealistic and actually annoying - whatever people say though, Kait isn’t an “agenda pushing” character and has never been, nor is she a person like Sam who enjoys taking shots at a certain once blonde haired and now bald person all the time) or if they fit within context. What I see being suggested in the OP… I don’t really see the point of it within Gears, for Kait’s character

(Minor edit-in : the reason why I think Gears female characters are all perfectly fine as they are is because they are just, well… that. Characters, people, not some over the top representation of any gender that is just ridiculous and obvious agenda pushing like in other games.)

Right, I’ll stop now cause my thoughts are still a bit disorganized after a night of unrestful sleep and my post risks to be too messy(more than it already is anyway) if I continue. Damn heat keeping me awake(probably shouldn’t have played the RE2 remaster to its end until about an hour before I went to sleep either).

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#22

I always found that weird considering TC made the character, so her dialogue can’t really be unfit for her.

I had problems with Gears 4 dialogue for classic characters, though. Even now, Marcus still laughs on chainsaw kill.

#23

As far as I can recall their point was something along the lines that TC somehow didn’t really understand Kait’s character or didn’t know what to do with her, something like that. I was inclined to agree that some of her swearing and trash talk lines seemed off, didn’t seem like the way Kait’s character was intended to be in terms of behavior, if you get what I mean(albeit then I was only lurking on the forums and not participating in discussions), but then a lot of the Gears 4 dialogue was just generic over the top swearing and rubbish talk(so it seemed to me, at least).

Which Gears 5 thankfully improved on a lot.

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#24

The rants are still there if you’ve paid attention.

#25

You got me. I haven’t spotted him yet.

#26

I thought Gears 5 ending was BAD
Preferred Gears 4’s by a MILE
And i am one of those who plays often as a female character.
They give me a feeling of being faster and nimble in the Game

#27

Remember that Sera is not Earth. On Sera, humans are said to be “more evolved” and have less body hair. That’s because Epic didn’t want to put armpit hair on the Gears 3 characters.

Sera is simplified, and in some ways idealized. Cliff and Rod stated after Gears 1 that they set out to create a “United Nations cast of diverse characters and ethnicities.” Real life socio-political issues took a backseat, because the games don’t focus on that. They leave it in the background to remind players “you’re not fighting for good, you’re fighting for the lesser evil.”

The Old COG had the birthing creches. Women were paid in extra food and security to become breeders, and as if that wasn’t dark enough, some of the birthing creches broke the rules. The COG eventually lost them all, or disbanded them all, and nixed the idea completely when the COG dissolved. That was the one and only civil rights issue that was directly addressed by Gears. And they only addressed it in the comics, because the birthing creches were mostly gone by 14 A.E.D.

The New COG focuses more on social engineering. Men and women are back to being full equals, as they were during the Pendulum Wars. The only divisions are biological. Women have always been allowed to serve in the COG and the UIR militaries. We didn’t see women politicians in the Old COG, but a woman leads the New COG (and she’s just as slimy as Prescott).

We’ve seen how Outsiders resist the New COG, and many of those Outsiders were quite eloquent. Well-informed, even. Some weren’t. Others didn’t care. None of that matters now, because all the Outsiders are dead, or they’ve joined the COG’s military. The COG is once again the lesser of two evils… And the Swarm is more evil.

So what’s Kait supposed to stand against and oppose? The Swarm, and Jinn’s authoritarianism. She already opposes both.

Kait calls her own shots, listens to the advice and orders of those she considers wise, and she verbally dominated Jinn in Gears 5. What more can she do? Seize control of the COG and change the government’s diapers? No. If she survives the Swarm war, Kait will pull a Reyna (EDIT: and a Gabe) and found a new civilization. Until then, Kait’s already stepping up and taking responsibility.