I did a KOTH on security last night and opponents were spawning right next to me… I mean, literally next to me. And I would spawn in places right next to them too, and just laugh as they tried to shoot me, through spawn protection…
Now, I KNOW security had problems with spawns before, I played KOTH there MAAAAAAAANY times, but last night’s was so extreme, so consistent, that either it was a ridiculous outlier, or something changed…
I admit, I’ll pop into G5 every now and again, play with some friends a game or two, do some horde with other friends, but mostly I have to force myself to try and like it (and mostly fail)… So do I count as a successful player in their stats? Their RAW NUMBERS aren’t what they would like, and how many of those ones they have are like me? Sure, we play, but spent $0 in the store, and really feel no interest or excitement about the game…
I enjoy Coop GoW4 more than any ranked G5 game, game play wise… I only play G5 for social reasons now, and the number of friends still playing it barely above zero now…
Remember that fella who had a theory that TC had incorporated a form of lag-compensation which gave players with higher ping extra boosts to their damage output and defence? He then challenged us to get an official response from TC. When TC confirmed that his theory is incorrect, he had a moan along the lines of “of course TC would say this!”
Man… that was a bit of a crazy day. 
I’m pretty sure he had also made a bet and offered $100 or something to whoever got this response from TC. Obviously he never paid up, even when the winner asked for it to be donated to a charity.
Reminds me of an episode of The Looney Tunes Show where Bugs Bunny calls into his cable provider because his cable went out. He’s on the phone with Cecil (that turtle from the classic cartoons) and goes through the stereotypical situation of dealing with a cable company.
The thing is, Cecil turned the cable off on PURPOSE and gives random people a hard time simply because he finds it amusing.
There’s even a bit where Bugs asks if he could simply turn the cable back on, where Cecil responds with something along the lines of “Do you really think we can switch people’s cable on and off just like that?” All the while, his computer has a simple yes/no prompt about doing so.
Dude, Gears is “Broken and Dead”.
How dare you
How dare you dare me
Apparently you have data on how many players are still in Gears 4. I would like to see the source or link.
You say TC is no longer interested in G4, if so why does it keep the shop there with items that can be bought with real money?
What maintenance is needed for a voting system?
Effectively everything that has been said here is mere speculation, however it is striking that precisely those 2 factors have been broken and not others (such as the possibility of buying with real money for example).
I’m the same way… 1 or 2 games and then it just feels like a chore to stay engaged.
They also put ads for Gears 5 and the Rockstar drink or whatever energy drink that is to win a truck? Unless that isn’t new but I don’t remember it and it usually just was Gears 5 ad.
Keep making excuses for GOW4’s low player count. 
Just played 2 games of KOTH on Gears 4, Relic and Forge, we couldn’t choose of course. The lag was very real!. 
I think about 7 of us had pings of 20-40 but 3 players had 200+
That doesn’t justify the embarrassment Gears 5 is going through.
With only 2 months to have come out and is in 28th place.
How many months it took for Gears 4 to reach that low level?
In 3 years Gears 5 will have far fewer players than Gears 4 has now.
By the way, what’s Steam got to do with it?
I didn’t know Gears 4 was in that store.
How dare you dare him for daring you
The one who associated Gears 4 with Steam was you, not me
And there’s no need to search for excuses, Gears 4 has completed its cycle very honorably, with successes and failures like any game, but what happens with Gears 5 is a disgrace for a saga like this.
When Gears 5 reaches the same age as Gears 4, it will be a game more than dead.
Omen the numbers in public have to be low…every game starting with bots in…i try to avoid pubs…but iv also noticed what seems like a drop off in custom…dont think we’ll ever get numbers but just playing speaks for itself.
Are they still sabotaging Gears 4 ranked?
Not only the ranks but also the voting system have sabotaged it.
For the last 3 weeks you have not been allowed to vote for the map before each match.
And yes, the problem continues.
It’s the first time I’ve seen a company damage its own product in this way.
I know about the map voting, I was playing while it was happening. Gears 5 is a disaster so I went back to 4 the same week 5 came out. Hadn’t played it in a while, since I’ve been hanging around the forums cuz Gears 5 sucks massive ****. Hoping they fix it but doesn’t look like that’s happening. Anyway while on these forums I just saw this one post in particular and couldn’t believe it. My one gears safe haven is being sabotaged. Haven’t touched Gears 4 since I read this. Was kinda hoping it may have been resolved now a couple of weeks later, but you’re saying it’s still occurring. If those geniuses think the vets are gonna go play 5 cuz rank in 4 is broken they’re badly, badly mistaken. As many have already said, we would much rather go play other games, then go contract aids playing 5.
The spawns in GoW4 koth are TOTALLY FRACKED UP 
Don’t care, still prefer it over G5 Koth