I feel like Iâm the only Star Wars fan in the entire world that wants a series or game that is in an alternate timeline or parallel dimension where order 66 doesnât happen and we instead get an evil version of the galactic rebel alliance and an evil Luke, Leia, Han, Chewbacca, Obi-wan and evil Yoda.
There was a cut star wars game that actually had concepts of a âRedeemed Anakinâ, it looked dope. it was Anakin brought back to the light right after Episode 3 so he still is young and not as corrupted.
I donât care about Anakin, I only cared about the troopers.
We kinda had some of that in the force unleashed games. Wasnât the best of video games, but it had an alright story that was better than pretty much the last 2 Star Wars movies.
I donât remember the empire being protagonists in TFU games.
TFU1: Vader grabbed starkiller when he was a child. Starkiller is part of the empire. You can choose your ending (light/dark). If you kill Vader, you become the apprentice of the Emperor, which leads into DLC. Half the game, the empire are the protagonists.
TFU2: Youâre cloned by Vader, and again, are part of the empire. The game ends differently than the first game, but if you continue into the DLC, you take over as the âevilâ star killer & hunt down Jedi Leia.
Perspective shifts and sides change, but there is quite a bit of time spent with the empire, which would technically make them the protagonists.
I didnât even realize TFU had that much depth to it when I played those games and always thought they only had one ending.
Then again, I was still relatively young back then as well and perhaps didnât care as much or notice, as opposed to just being the big powerful guy slaughtering my enemies(well, except for the poor Wookies at the start of the first one where you temporarily control Vader).
Yea, it was meant to be a hack & slash game first and foremost, but there was a story there. It kinda jumped around and got more wacky in the DLCs, but it was good fun at a time when we needed more/better Star Wars games.
Umm no he wasnât part of it because Vader was keeping him a secret from the emperor so no the empire were not the protagonists and were your enemies for the majority of the campaign (excluding the non canon DLC) Also the endings are optional and are the end of the main campaign.
We never got a full on game 100% dedicated to being the empire and a trooper (not gonna count Battlefront 2005 because that wasnât a true campaign but rather glorified offline multiplayer with bots)
Never said this. Itâs why I said âa bit of time is spent with the empire.â And considering Starkiller is taken as a child and is raised (whether in secret or not, doesnât matter) by Vader for a long portion of his early life, he serves the empire. It doesnât matter if anyone else knew because he and Vader thought he served the empire. Also, when introduced to Juno, she believes him to be a part of the empire.
More importantly, It doesnât matter if certain DLCs were canon or not⌠there are choices in the game that allow you to hunt Jedi & act on behalf of the emperor after you kill Vader, so like I said, even tho perspectives shift, starkiller does serve the empire at various points in both games.
You canât deny something just because you donât see it that way. These things happened in the game, therefore he served the empire. It doesnât matter how it things flip flop or donât line up (or arenât considered the ârealâ ending to the first game), he served the empire for a long time, plotted out loud to Vader that the 2 of them would overthrow the emperor. Iâm sorry, but secret apprentice or not, he was a part of team dark side.
(Btw, if you wanna start talking canon, we can discuss the fact that all the extended universe novels and everything that used to be canon got dropped once Kathleen Kennedy got her hooks in the franchise, so if weâre gonna be literal here about whatâs canon in the game and what isnât, we can look at the bigger picture of whatâs REALLY canon and what isnât. And thereâs quite a lot that is not canon that very much should be)
Oh boy you have no idea what youâve stepped into since now youâre challenging me on this 
alright then first off like I said earlier no he does not serve the empire or the emperor, what a dumb sense of logic to use by saying that he âthoughtâ he did when Vader made it very clear to him âThe Emperor cannot discover you, leave no witnesses kill everyone aboardâŚimperials and Kotaâs men alikeâ
Why would he kill imperials if they were on the same side during the campaign? The only time where you have imperials as allies is the prologue mission with Vader on Kashyyk and the non canon Hoth DLC mission based on the evil ending. Other than those two missions the empire serves as antagonists throughout most of the campaign.
Secondly when it came to hunting down Jedi in the story you had no imperial backup because once again you are Vaderâs SECRET APPRENTICE because the Sith followed a very strict rule called the rule of two where only one master and one apprentice can be around at the same time otherwise any attempt at violating this would be seen as treachery (to which Palpatine made very clear when he found out about Star Killer)
ThirdlyâŚdeny what exactly? The false narrative that youâre spewing out regarding the game? Of course Iâm gonna deny it because youâre spreading misinformation based on illogical fallacy. Itâs almost as if you didnât actually play the game at all. As for canon lore yes this game was originally canon excluding the DLC because Star Killer was the original guy that helped start the rebel alliance and you clearly see this in the light side ending. Only now itâs no longer canon thanks to Disney taking over the franchise and making several retcons.
Ok guy, whatever. Iâm not trying to battle someone who clearly values ignoring facts in trying to win some silly argument. Since you canât understand that the secret apprentice grew up (living at least 15-20 years) serving under Vader and the empire (which is obviously not shown in the game but it clearly points that out to you when time jumps from vader grabbing Galen/starkiller as a kid to his training at the beginning of the game) and that the emperor knew about him the whole time THEN recruits him if he kills Vader, well then, I got nothing more to respond to you with. You clearly know the game and all of its events better than the devs who made it!
Secondly, I never said THE WHOLE GAME revolves around serving under the empire. I said perspectives shift and sides change, but technically starkiller did serve the empire. Youâre the one who obviously canât comprehend whatâs being written here and youâre the one with the obvious agenda to have a skewed narrative. You wanna ignore whatâs being written and try to insult? Yea, Iâm done wit you. Besides, youâre the one tryin to bark whatâs canon and what isnât (in a video game) when the game itself literally isnât canon in the extended universe! If it happened in the game, guess what⌠in the context of the actual game, it happened! SmhâŚ
And the rule of two⌠so I guess Vader didnât serve the empire when it was him and Palpatine, just like when it was Dooko & Palpatine, or Maul & Palpatine. Yea, they werenât part of the empire, cause the rule of two, right? Secret or not, doesnât matter.
Next thing I bet youâre gonna try to say is how the Last Jedi was a cinematic masterpiece, that had the best choreography, storytelling and all that other nonsense that sequel trilogy apologists love to say.
Iâm done responding to you.
Letâs not forget the infamous Star Destroyer sequence.
Itâs been so long I donât evenhave an accurate memory of it, but records appear to state it was a royal pain in the backside.
Also, I would like to know if @GhostofDelta2 is responsible for this title about Thrawn.
But it was so artistically done.
Ignoring facts? Why donât you actually check the scene again this time. Whatâs there for me to lie about exactly? smh
Oh youâre gonna go there with me and claim that I like the garbage sequel trilogy? Lmao youâre just like that other dude on the forum that did the same and looked idiotic for doing that jokes on you if you seriously believe that I like the âsequelsâ that are actually just a terrible remakes / rip offs on the original trilogy.
âOk guy whatever. Iâm not trying to battle someoneâ
Buddy thatâs what youâve been doing the whole time, ainât my fault you have a faulty memory on what happened in the game.
Just my 2 cents but RivalSky6321907 is correct. Starkiller was a secret project of Darth Vader and was never part of the empire.
Didnât Han Solo commandeer the starship enterprise or something?
âOG Thrawnâ sounds like the gt of someone who holds A at you on sight.