I guess that means the Joveus theory holds up pretty well, and that the only significant difference is that Myrrah was an offspring of the infected rather than one of the Scientists.
I also read that Niles had been “mass-producing” Locust, and that the Locust themselves may have replicated his efforts, thus explaining how they are able to bolster their numbers in only a few decades.
He mass produced locusts, then the species mass produced itself. He created a new life form that could reproduce itself
Which would explain how the Scions could produce the Swarm from the get-go.
Do they go into detail how the Locust procreated? Was it by processing?
I’ll tell you what, if JD’s death isn’t canon I will be highly disappointed.
For one, Del was there for Kait the whole time, had her back, vouched for Jack, etc.
Two, JD is pretty generic, even from the last game. He got slightly better towards the end but meh. We have Marcus still, we don’t need his son. Plus the reaction it got out of Marcus fits better.
Exactly Narratively speaking Kait would save Del. Kait been running from the Cog and Jd is mr cog. Killed protesters which are probably outsiders. Was sowing distrust in the group, lied to JD. The bonded too much for her not to choose Del. And I think G6 is a good opportunity for him to get development
Easiest decision ever.
Del is a nothing character. A blank slate still. Nothing happened to him in two games now to give him any appeal. Having with me the whole game did not matter one bit. He has no family or anything other good reasons ever shown in the game to make the choice somewhat tough at all.
JD got interesting this game.
Plus Marcus has lost enough close people over the years. I gotta do my guy a solid.
I will always choose JD.
I watched Del live on YouTube just to see it bu that’s it.
New Hope was shut down by the old chairman, Monroe I believe, and Niles got funded by a different benefactor. (There’s a collectible in the old New Hope that explains this). He moved his subjects to Mount Kadar and with the funding of the mysterious backer he built and sunk the lab. It remained hidden for so long and there, probably, was the final stand before he put the facility on ice. It most likely got completely buried after that because the old COG didn’t want it to get out that they created monsters.
Niles started out with good intentions but when you play creator it always winds up badly. He preserved the first locusts because he believed so highly in his work.
Let’s just hope they don’t keep with the same tropes movies & shows fall to. Del needs to be the one that lives, for a few reasons.
It sounds like a rather strange decision on the writers part, especially in a series that has as linear a story experience as this one does.
I’m not sure I understand the reasoning for having it as I struggle to see what it adds to the experience. Especially since it doesn’t sound like it has any real affect the rest of the story while casually implying that JD and Del are interchangeable and whatever they had to offer to the narrative didn’t really matter.
If the rationale was to give the player some sense of agency, then that makes even less sense because the games layout pretty clearly that these characters - whether it be Kait, JD, or Marcus - have their own personalities, thoughts & goals and we’re just going along for the ride. But it would be a great disservice to take that away from them simply because the developers wanted to do…whatever it is they set out to do.
I didn’t like the choice at the end. It felt forced for shock value and didn’t have nearly the buildup like Dom’s or his wife’s.
Still, whatever TC chooses to do with Gears 6, I hope there’s an option to see JD again with Del’s death on his conscience along with all the other crazy deaths (both the ones he accidentally caused and didn’t) throughout his story. There’s huge potential there to make him a very interesting, burdened character paralleling war and the hard decisions needed to win it. Same thing with Kait, to a lesser extent–she never panicked and ordered a firing squad on a riot. Having to live with that in a character with JD’s personality is great for internal conflict.
His redemption arc was WAY too rushed, much like them suddenly making him someone who fired on a riot and like him suddenly becoming a prototypical “COG” following orders. I liked Del but had to save JD. By the end of the game, he’s the most interesting and complex character in it besides maybe Marcus, yet it hardly ever comes out in his dialogue. Wasted potential IMO.
P.S. I hate how quick he “returned” to old JD when they could have done SO much more with his character after Act 1, given what he has done/caused/gone through.
Tl;DR I really hope JD shows up in Gears 6. His character potential is the best of anyone in the cast right now.
I don’t know, in the last game it seemed like JD and Kait was going to be more then friends and then they found Marcus and JD switched to be focused on being Marcus Fenix replacement instead of developing JD into his own character. It also felt like Kait actually became the focus character, which left JD in the dark. Del just felt like the Dom’s replacement that they didn’t want to waste time getting us invested before wiping him off the map.
I would have to say that I didn’t feel that neither JD or Del got to develop and I was at more of a loss for Dave, then I was with the idea of JD or Del. I think making the story more of and investment then just , hey go here , you go there, this character dies for whatever reason.
Maybe by Gears6 , they will remember how they did that in Gow1 through GoW3 and Judgement. GoW4 and Gears5, just seem to lack that feeling in teh story.
I hope JD surviving is the cannon option, I do like Del, but it makes more sense for JD to go through the pain his father has before him. All Del did was bring some comedy in to the game, where JD brought deep story.
1: Clay lives, but they forgot to show him in the cutscene for… some reason. Aggravates me.
2: Knives don’t instakill with eye-shots. And that broken machete wouldn’t fit in Reyna’s eye socket. Not to mention Reyna’s head was half covered in crystals.
3: So weird. It’s like… Okay. Whatwhyhow.
4: They’ll either pick a canon, or they’ll count each player’s “votes” to see who got saved the most. Not sure I’m happy with either option.
Both endings are equally heavy. Like… heart-wrenchingly heavy, for anybody who spent the time to find all the optional dialogue and environment interactions. My guess is that TC couldn’t choose between either ending because they’re both so strong.*
But man…
Del’s supposed to be a PhD science teacher, but he’s serving in a military he doesn’t agree with. Because he can’t sit by and let bad things happen.
JD’s stepped up to the effort of war and leadership, and he’s become truly heroic. But it’s at the cost of his own body, and he still doesn’t feel redeemed.
It’s a lose/lose multiple choice question.
I understand where you’re coming from, but no one seems to mention the del is extremely smart and could inherit bairds work. His skills offer more than a guy who who is always trying to prove his leadership. I like jd, but del can save us all too
I’m still not so sure. I can’t give a definitive impression, just that my knee-jerk reaction is that I’m not generally a fan of story options like this in a predominantly linear experience. Maybe my mind will change if I experience it for myself.
I hope that choice doesn’t mean either character gets marginalized in the next game. I’d rather have both of them magically survive in canon than that happen.
Clayton Carmine is alive and hopefully stays alive together with some other carmine fam. members in gears 6. I hope they ain’t putting that in the hands of the community again through a vote (dumb decision that was).
Yup first time encountering that, I did nothing but try and throw it into her head. Wanted to save both. Kinda disappointing that that ending in a game over. But yeah, JD is the logical choice really, which will most likely be canon in Gears 6 or…they will pull some kind of magic trick and bring him back alive through a locust pod or something in gear 6. (snapped neck or not)
Gears 6 will prolly start off with who you killed based on your save game or allows you to pick I guess if they don’t make anything set in stone canon.
I don’t know how they’ve managed it, but damn, the story really made me care for the characters a lot more than I was ever expecting it to. I found JD to be really boring and Del kind of was just there for me, but at the end of 5, I found it really bad(and that’s an understatement - I don’t really know how to describe the feelings about this scene) that we had to make this choice because of how I suddenly cared for characters who I previously felt nothing for. I chose to save Del, but I found the choice extremely tough to make. Even though I didn’t find all of the hidden things or dialogues around the world. Either I chose Del who had accompanied Kait on the journey, or JD who had been trying to redeem himself with Kait for his behavior. But in the end, no matter what I would have chose, the death would have hit hard. The way Kait and Del reacted and how the way their voices sounded(especially Kait’s) really just drove in how much this impacted them. It was also just… I don’t know, but the way Marcus reacted to when he saw Del and Kait react to his question where JD was, that was just… I didn’t think I’d ever be lead to care about the characters this much. Even Fahz who’s kind of a (insert word of choice here).
Very true it felt good killing JD 