Revamp characters GIVE US CLASSES

Gears 5
#21

Yeah, I don’t know about this one. Would have to be a lot to work on later waves of higher difficulties, because attracting fire from multiple Drone Elites is unlikely to work out well for anyone regardless of how tough they are. Really hope they bring her out with Operation 2(it should bring all the Campaign characters at least, I feel…). Preferably in December.

Since you’re also a Horde player, here’s a “fun” story… playing Incon Horde on an open sky map, Kestrel comes on wave 30. I try shooting it, but it keeps moving around because our COG Gear kept shooting it with a Trishot not doing a lot of damage, but just enough for the Kestrel to not hold still so I couldn’t hit it with the Lancer GL or ult well. We fail when the Kestrel kills us when it was nearly dead(no thanks to the other enemies shooting into the base because there was nothing distracting them like a decoy). And what does Del do? Calls me a frickin noob and refuses to restart. After which I explained(ok, more like said) it wasn’t my fault the Kestrel kept moving around so I wasn’t able to hit it well because someone else kept shooting it and making it move, then “wished” him good riddance and left. Wasn’t going to put up with that stupidity. “You couldn’t hit that Kestrel effectively because someone kept shooting it and made it move nearly all the time? Pfft, noob!”. I swear, the players that are out there…

#22

Nope this aint horde…choice is what its about…heroes creates classes that make others a waste of time…little or no skill required to play horde in either 4 or 5…generally just a shitshow🤔

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#23

Hello Foosniper,

I love Horde and would have to respectively disagree.

We all have our own opinions of the Best Horde to be sure, but I actually like what they are attempting in G5.

Agreed its not the best by any means as of yet but lets give it some time and see where it goes.

Thank you.

#24

Yep all about opinions hulk…glad your enjoying it…but it lacks any interest ir skill…empty pubs lobbies and custom showing signs of struggling…they took both skill n fun from a once great mode…thx foo😁

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#25

That story amicable shows…the almost total reliance on 1 character controlling boss wvs ect…although ur right in what u say and the engineers poor reaction…the imbalance is blatantly obvious…its a poor mans horde.

#26

do you realize how much time and effort this would take?

it means at least 12months of development time to design and test. it would detract from other things like making new Hero’s, Abilities, cards. it also disrupts the synergy with Escape and cross-hero system.

it means basically putting all post launch content on hold because you don’t like the Hero system. not going to happen

#27

and this is where the developers need to be careful

there’s going to be a huge number of people who like the Hero system and won’t be making posts or social media comments. I also like the new system and have played more Horde in 5 than I ever did in 4, and we’re only 2 months in.

this was suggested in Ryan’s reply thread and he agreed that some kind of Hero lock could work.

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#28

It baffles me how the role queue has just somehow gone unnoticed for eons. Regardless, I hope it makes it. It might make me consider playing Horde again.

#29

all signs point to them simply running out of time before launch. the huge list of bugs logged, QoL fixes and features missing show this.

one that drives me up the wall is that duplicate character warning window.

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#30

I for my self prefer heroes more, but is it perfect? Nope! The new system was specifically designed with extensibility in mind.

TC built a weak base for the new system, it was unfortunately glitched and faulty in certain scenarios. What I don’t like the most atm, is that they kinda killed off certain characters off the spot by replacing them with new ones who have more tangible skills.

Let me be more specific, Marcus, that should’ve his own bleeding card, tri-shot more damage, or long lasting stim has nothing of that sort, he is the frailest of them all now due to the current glitchy state.

TBD.

Cheers,

#31

We’re all poor, given these obscene microtransactions! :smiley:

Thank you, thank you, I’m here all weekend. Please tip the waitress too.

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#32

Kait is good against all but the Kestrel(kind of) and Swarmak. The latter being due to the EXTREME amount of health the boss has. Matriarch is more a matter of being able to get behind and being able to shoot undisturbed. And maybe Guardians/Sentinels are a problem for her, due to their shield. But there is still reliance on JD overall. Or people just want him too much because of the ridiculous damage he deals, especially once you’ve maxed out or leveled Razor Hail to a certain point on him.

But still, I do agree this Horde is not balanced well. A lot of it requires on having different characters(eg Kait and Jack with Jack perma healbeaming Kait until the wave is over or he can fetch weapons for the Forge, or Marcus combining his ult with a Fahz for headshots) working together which is extremely absent in even Custom matches. Playing Kait on higher difficulties(esp with the extra damage modifier) without having a Jack healing you all the time is really annoying, especially once you’ve passed wave 30. She deals less damage while being restricted to mostly close range and kind of mid range with the Overkill and Gnasher, and relies on having a Jack using faster healing, and possibly healing distance, to be able to keep firing effectively. In 5 Horde, not even blind firing your weapons works to keep you safe. They still hit you anyway. Almost every time I have played her on Insane and upwards, I was outdamaged by JD due to his range advantage at some point beyond the early waves, didn’t get healed by Jack much unless he was reviving players from range, and after wave 30 would have real problems getting any hits or reliable damage in without having to expose myself a lot and unnecessarily. Just isn’t fun. But while I like doing explosives, the way JD plays out often feels very mindless even using a varied set of weapons over only 4 Lancer GLs. Kait is somewhat less worse on that regard. You at least have to do more than point in the general direction of an enemy to hit them with your Very tries”

Meanwhile, once JD has a locker, he literally needs no one else to do as much damage as he possibly can, from any range. I’ve had the argument that he’s way too OP countered by him not being useful in close quarters, but he’s not if you have any clue how you should use an explosive weapon when enemies are closer to you, doesn’t require perma healing from Jack and can deal damage at pretty much any range all the while having even higher damage potential than Kait, or anyone else on the team.

#33

It certainly shows…I really hope Gears of War 6 gets an actual polishing before release, dealing with a rushed product is just frustrating.

If skills are going to be permanently tied to characters, then I hope dupes become a possibility.

Ideally I would love for skill cards to be shared among all characters so you can have more customization options for class loadouts while also maintaining character choice freedom.

#35

I replied to @N0DEZER0 about this and it would take way more development time to do classes for all characters, or revamp the system, than lock the abilities to specific characters. Apparently matchmaking may solve this issue so a player who has chosen the same character as you won’t be put into your lobby

#36

What about del and Jd one of them dies in the campaign but their both in horde? Also what about Sarah Connor, kat and emile they aren’t even gears characters?

#37

I agree with this. Most of my enjoyment in horde from the Gears 2, 3, and 4 was not only killing grubs with friends and having a good time, but also having the freedom of playing as any character I want. If I can’t have that same freedom in Gears 5’s horde because of some duplicate restriction then it’s dead to me.

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#38

They are not listening On here why bother

#39

Or anywhere else haha :rofl:

#40

4 wasnt great…but it had choice…could also manipulate cards so u didnt have to play pubs…on 5 u would not know who a decent player was…cause anyone can spam jd n kait…aint rocket science🤣

#41

I dont care how long it takes to redesign or unbind chracters just fkn do i will deal with the conscqences of gears 6 development time later

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