This is where the ranking system fails, I’m onyx 3 and playing with 4 other gold players (one of which has quit, and one of which is a friend but is gold 3) question is, despite my friends rank why am I playing with 3 other gold players, and why is this game so punishing that when I have the perfect game and get the most elims, 2nd to most caps and the most breaks I lose GP??? This is where the ranking systems fails, on the old ranking system there would have been a chance I would go up.
I’ve been getting dropped alot quite lately and it may be happening to others also
I’ve been getting dropped everyday for past week and suspended for different periods,
I’ve had to stop playing ranked because of it, I don’t see screen prior to OP 4 to join back ranked game.
why are people complaining about going against 5 man stack,4 man stack ,etc? It’s ranked, hence the reason people squad up. Also being in a squad doesn’t equate to winning.
Once I’m in a game where connection isn’t dropped it’s all skill, doesn’t matter whether vs in stack or not.
Being able to see the squads you’re now up against in OP4 makes ppl complain more, lol, Teamwork and communication will bring more wins to the team you’re in.
I hope issue of people being disconnected from ranked games and can’t join back in resolved soon.
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Same here I get dropped a lot, people running into walls and I disconnect and the game says I lost connection yet I’m still on Xbl, not very good at all especially when this didn’t happen on previous titles
Thanks for sharing your stats here. A prime example of why the caps need to be removed or raised. Just because of the arbitrarily low caps you LOST 13 GP that you should have earned in the match. Plus the quitter, which I would argue they should reduce the loss of GP to mitigate for the loss of a teammate. Perhaps 20-40 GP penalty reduction? If those changes were made you might break even, which I think is at least somewhat more reasonable in a loss.
This is one of the main problems with the new rank system. Above Silver You CANNOT rank up unless you win, and between quitters and inconsistent quality of teammates I’m not able to get anywhere. 2 steps forward and 3 steps back. On the old ranking system I was usually hanging around Gold 3 , very close to Onyx. This new system I’m stuck at Gold 1. The caps and too high GP cost (at least in Gold tier) should be adjusted to avoid this. So if you perform well despite a bad team , you don’t get hammered.
I’ll throw in , MVP should get a 30-50 GP bonus.
I think with proper adjustments the new rank system can be really good. Thx!
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probably one of the biggest issues with ranked . It hurts even more when im actually winning, or have a chance to win.
this is coming from someone fully wired.
As the title says. You should not loose gp If you perform well If you loose. You should get at least a few coins for your effort. This System is all about win or loose. So its no surprise that People are quitting all the Time.
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I personally think you should go up or go down in rank based on the win but that’s just my opinion. Lot’s of games ranked is like that and I think it’s better but I understand what you mean
So you should go up in rank off a win even if you a the worst player in the lobby?
Thanks for the post. Another great example of how the ranking system is skewed. 8 Wins vs one loss and LOSING rank is absurd. In short, it’s my main complaint with the new system :Wins have LESS value and Losses are more heavily penalized. In other words Losses carry more weight than wins. Especially BIG Losses vs BIG wins. This is why I keep seeing post after post with similar complaints of players unable to progress in rank. And it’s why I have zero motivation to try and rank up at the moment.
Lets say you have 4 matches in Gold KOH.
Win- Stomp opposing team - nets 50 GP
Win - 3 round match - nets 100 GP
Win - Stomp opposing team - Nets 50 GP
Loss- Teammate quits, get stomped- Lose 90 GP
2 dominant wins are erased by 1 bad loss with a quitting teammate. So the wins have less value and the loss penalizes you heavier. Even though I won 75% of my matches, after all of that I’ve netted myself a whopping 110 GP. Which doesn’t even cover the cost of one Gold tier match.
A couple options for fixing this are to lower the GP cost for matches from Gold on up, Bring back the 2GP per elimination, and raise the Caps. Also add in some sort of GP loss mitigation if a teammate quits.
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I’ve been posting some of my ideas for how to fix the ranking system for KOH. One thing I also wanted to mention was the jump from Silver to Gold tier. Why does the GP cost double from 65 to 130 in moving from Silver to Gold? Having played a lot of matches in ranked KOH, I found that the Silver tier was very easy to get through. I win most of my matches and even when on a bad team and lose I perform well enough to earn GP. Then when I hit Gold the cost doubles and playing solo and with frequent quitting , ranking up is next to impossible. I’d have to string together 10-12 wins in a row to get through Gold. Next to impossible playing solo. I hope they might consider adjusting the GP cost so that the gradient between the tiers is a little more gradual.
Gave up playing ranked it’s just unforgiving ESPECIALLY as a solo player which I am a good percentage of the time
Could barely stay in gold as the entry fee is laughably high, once they halved eliminations entry fees should’ve also been halved.
Few tweaks and it’ll be bang on though,
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They changed the ranked system because pro players who play in squads kept bi***n it was easy to rank up!!
Like easy?! You gotta be with your pro squad in a ranked match!!! ■■■■… wish these same entitles players tried to play with two or solo… test their real skill…
But no… these players crying for a harder system are the ones hiding behind teammates & lancers…
They should change it back for us ranked players who don’t always have a team available or play gears because it’s a career.
It’s mostly everyone else but the top pro team that whines… TYPICAL.
Here is a pro player, stacked, on PC!!! picking on solo players . The 1v was cool though. Talking about the 5v.
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One thing I like about avexys and Domez is that no matter what , if you say 1v1 they most likely always accept the challenge lol.
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For real.
Just hate how he complains so much about the ranking system.
Like bro you’re a pro with a squad on pc. Let us mortals rank amongst each other lol…
Never seen him solo que or any other pro…
Maybe if they didn’t roll with a stack squad of pros on pc they’d have more respect for us humans playing solo at diamond or even onyx…
Still believe they need the old gp system if they stick with it because this current one with 1 point elim is so flawed.
But yeah he never backs down from a 1v so that’s respectable
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Changes are coming next week. Idk why they haven’t announced anything, I’m Positive I either read it on Twitter somewhere or heard it on a stream. I do know they are adjusting the gp again because they heard the feedback. Or I could just be Tripping anything is possible like lavar ball “wish it into existence” lol. It’s gonna happen.
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Lol.
About time.
Thanks for that news, I’m hopeful!
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It wasnt just the pros complaining about the last ranking system. This place was full of “This rank system sucks”
I honestly see the potential in this Ranking system. If the foundation is truly there to be able to improve this rank system I believe TC will do it without a doubt. If it becomes a cost and time issue I don’t know how far TC is willing to go with all the other issues that need attention in this game.
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Never heard that from an actual pvp dedicated rankedplayer.
Most people I knew were happy.
It didn’t suck. People cry for no reason it’s ridiculous.