Right? Well its funny. When it was “broken” everyone was sent to silver. And its supposed to be “fixed” now everyone is sent to bronze. Lol Absolutely broken system.
I think it has something to do with less tier work for the system to do because of very low player count. I can forgive the useless ranking if they fix the gameplay!
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I’ve seen many master ranked players in bronze 1. Reason I can tell is because they are using that dumb ■■■ lancer skin. Now, I dont care what placement anyone is I am decent enough to put up a fight even if they are better than me however as people who are truely bronze 1 players and are getting steam rolled it is problematic because my team score largely affects my ranking been bouncing back and forth between bronze 1 and bronze 2 all week. Its ludacris.
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I’ve hopped on for the first time on well over a month. Can say that rank is still as ■■■■■■■ ■■■■ compared to when I left it.
2 matches, 2 losses.
I’m usually mvp or second highest in the team with score and I’m decent. Got onyx and nearly diamond in this first season so yeah the system is ■■■■■■■ horrible.
Ranking is actually a joke. I was ranked bronze 1 after 2 months not playing. I am matched with master sweaties, which is fine, but losing rank points when I am already in bronze tier is kinda stupid.
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Gears 4’s ranking system was way more accurate.
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TDM 5 matches played, 5 defeats. I actually played alright coming top 2in each game alas that means feck all.
Bronze 1…obviously
Some points. To get the actual 5 games I think I was in about 12 lobbies, the Ping on a few games was200-600. I’m uk based!
Last game I got 20 kills , player on our team had 23 deaths!!!
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That’s strange at least in TDM i played all my games in Europe so far, unlike Escalation or Execution where i like NEVER played in Europe at all.
But yeah idk, i suppose most people should team up if they want to win, this morning i finished a game 38-3 (i won 2-1) and i lost a round … the 2nd round i was doing something like 10-2 and we were behind in lifes and lost …
I mean here are the 2 games i did this morning, (only screened after the first round because i always forget at the end of the game), i mean those games are fun for nobody, 9 people looking me playing …
They should just simplify the rank system altogether, or scrap it. The current system just has way too many factors to consider when matchmaking and allocating points at the end of the match, that as soon as something isn’t working right, the whole system crumbles.
To think that TC (Ryan specifically) thinks that this system is great is beyond me. Truly THE worst ranking system and one of the worst matchmaking systems in the industry.
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I mean wtf is this ?
I do just 1 game after posting …
This game is doomed … how can a game like gears expect to work with a non functionning ranking system ?
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Aye. I see Krazeeh. Dude’s a solid player
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Your visual rank doesn’t match your true skill rank. They said matchmaking is done on true skill level. So while you may be facing a lot of bronze or silvers, the majority of those are also higher in true skill rank; meaning they too were onyx/diamond last season and are working their way up.
I think they started everyone at bronze to decrease the bottle neck effect. Those like you who are master will obviously rank up super fast after some games.
You are not really ranked against anyone. Your total team points should be relatively close to the others team. So while you may be playing with a silver as a master, the other team may be all gold and a diamond to balance it. With you being so good, you will be needed to help with the win.
The system isn’t perfect. But it’s better than Gears 3 where everything was truly random.
Quitting is an issue. They said they are working to make players play an X amount of social games before being allowed back into ranked. Hopefully this keeps quitters out. They also stated there are new players who play ranked that may not understand the quitting aspect.
I’d take gears 3s system over gears 5 any day.
Gears 5s system is a million miles away from “not perfect”. It’s a shambles at present.
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No way.
Random placement where you can fight teams of 5 continuously and fight nothing but bots? No.
Gears 5 is not “in shambles”. Prior to the fix it was definitely horrible and I would agree (ie when the numbers given at the end were basically random).
Since the fix and launch of OP2, it seems and feels much better. Is there room for improvement? Obviously. Is it unplayable because its in shambles? No way.
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Sorry, I couldn’t disagree more. There has been no “fix” to matchmaking at all. You regularly get paired with players who have never played the game before, going 2-12 whilst you’re solo and the opposition is a stack.
Ask anyone here, they’ll tell you the same thing. TC has not changed the matchmaking system since launch. The only thing that they changed was ping and matchmaking times.
I’m afraid you’re mistaken. The ranking system is still borked too. The last “fix” changed nothing.
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Agreed
This.
Even Ryan admitted it needs more tuning/fixing, which is supposed to come some time during OP2.
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Its based way too much on how many points you have and if you won or not. It should be based on your kill death, damage done, objectives capped and time spent alive. Im a passive player ive always Waited for opportunities to take the other team by surprise. For me long execution matches were ideal, unfortunately even though i was D5 in everything in gears 4 i cant seem to get out of gold. You might say this is because im bad at the game but my K/D sits around 1.78 and in gears 4 it was 1.74 so for me not to move up on wins or mvp just shows me that the game is based off of “score per minute and win loss” and not based on actual “skill” skill that i believe is immeasurable.
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I think this is the real answer. The current system seems to be too clever by half, causing it to do all sorts of things that, even if they appear logical to the algorithms they are using, appear completely illogical to the actual players, too often.
Not going to pretend I know how easy it is to do, but they should probably just implement the Gears 4 ranking code. At least it basically worked.
Even if they could get the current system eventually working right, is it worth another however many weeks of them tinkering and resetting and tinkering again? Couldn’t that energy be better spent on fixing and re-balancing other stuff?
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Played the whole day and tried getting out of bronze in tdm but no luck. Always played well and got mvp’s but lost probably 35 matches with only 1 win. I remember in gears 4 I got into diamond tier by playing 6-10 mediocore matches 
Well, time to uninstall again and come back in 6 months.
Just finished my 5 placement matches and got placed in Bronze 1… 
(After having over 50+ kills during each match)
The least they could place me in, would be Silver 2 again like before…