I want to mix both personal feedback and the numbers we can gather from public services as steamcharts
yes I know the windows store playerbase is missing but I doubt there’s different numbers. So for the purpose of this thread I’d just double the ones from steamcharts.
this comes right after a big update for versus and the official start of the ranked season with a revised system
more in general, especially on the EU side of the servers, there’s this feeling I can’t shake since OP1: I’m literally playing the same handful of players despite the time of day and I believe the others feel the same.
if you take a look at streamers, you can see that for yourself, same bunch of people from PC and the few with crossplay still on, playing game after game against each other with the occasional jump towards NA servers.
now, I’m pretty aware of the fact that someone will jump in here crying against because unfair PC advantage and cheating trying to steer the conversation towards technical details that they don’t even fully understand
but I’d love for this debate to be a little more constructive towards the fact that,even considering any form of advantage, 700ish players can’t ruin the experience of way more console players.
I can literally see my console friends playing match after match at any time of the day while I’m a lobby simulator.
playing Gears on PC is becoming a chore for us, long waiting times, no games at all for hours (twitter is full of posts on this situation)
I would ask for TC to reconsider this crossplay toggle, it’s clearly more of a problem than a benefit
@TC_Sera for visibility, I hope they’ll at least read this
I’ve been saying that PC players aren’t that big of a deal. I play against two PC players in customs every day and win about 99% of the time and they are NASTY at this game. If anything console players have more of an advantage Lmao
yeah would love if pc players could have proper queue times and stuff.
it feels childish that people complain about crossplay. I remember I used to play universe at war (RTS) on console and I was excited for crossplay. Sadly it was buggy af rofl.
If it means more players, I’ll gladly take it. PC and console have different pro/cons, and it’s just a game. people complain about this game being dead when not having crossplay is a huge reason for it. cant find game? maybe because its trying to find a game in gold 2 at a weird time zone with good pings and other players who have crossplay on/off. makes it complicated.
biggest issue for the game are stacks. solo/duo max. even a game like LoL in it’s infancy seperated 5 man stack mode from solo/duo. Because it’s obvious it’s a stomp if a 5 man vs a bunch of solos. 0 competitive integrity. Just feels like im grinding points instead of having even matches.
it’s just pretty dumb to put so much effort into pc with making it playable (which theyve done a great job on), but then isolate them. you are shooting yourself in the foot.
its sad they teased on earlier this year that crossplay will be forced, and then radio silence
sadly these threads don’t usually pick up interest from the playerbase in these forums
if we were arguing about character classes for horde a year in, we’d be hitting numbers and possibly a developer response
it’s really ugly to see this lobby and that timer going up
Cross play filter only affects ranked matches to my knowledge. People just need to understand that a PC player isn’t good at the game because they play on PC. They’re good at the game because they’re simply good at the game. Most PC players can switch between console and PC and do just as good. Not to mention most of them use a controller due to gears being a game built for controllers.
It’s placebo when comparing Pc to Console when talking about a 3rd person shooter. As TubbieSquirrels said, if you see them at the top then they’re just good at the game.
The only two small advantages a pc player has is if they have a 21:9 monitor which allows them to see around corners wider and the response rate of a monitor, which a ton of console players play with a monitor over a t.v anyway. If they do use a t.v then they play casually anyway which playing against pc players would be irrelevant to them to begin with.
These questions are mundane when all I currently own is the latest console. I just prefer playing players who are on the same platform so I know it’s a level field. Been in various matches were the pc guy is killing for fun. I’m not so ignorant that he/she might just be a great player but just seems to be a common occurring factor in certain lobbies.
still you’re trying to talk about technical differences, I wanted a population approach
PC players are way less than on console gears and this is slowly killing an already thin playerbase without REASON
if pc players were swarming lobbies with their insane fps, mouses or time bending monitors, I could agree we’d need separation
none of this exists because PC players, let alone mouse and keyboard ones, are just a handful.
and no, most of your make believe delusions about UnFaIR AdVaNTagE are not what you think they are.
having everyone playing everyone is beneficial to to gears in general given the current state of the game
pc players won’t feel a dead game and console players could feel a little more competition rather than trying to avoid it at all costs