Overbearing Horde Engineers

Good post, thanks. I agree with all of this…well, maybe kicking the JD was a little sensitive :slight_smile:

nah it wasn’t when dudes come in like that unchecked they will ruin the room the minute they not being listened too
best get rid of the problem asap lol

No, there is not a reason that you decide EXACTLY where every fortification goes. Sometimes you put stuff in the line of sight of other players or otherwise affect their strategies. Let them do what they do and adjust positions of fortifications. They are the ones that have to kill things, after all.

This. Let the players place the fortifications. There are some spots that are strategic and default “the best spot”, but by and large the people playing the field should get to place the pieces where it best helps them. As an engineer, try just buying the stuff and dropping it by the fabricator. Let the players drag it where they want. And when they do, try to be mindful of where they put them so you can run out and repair them between waves or during the last DBNO.

I think I prefer an overbearing engineer to a non engineer telling the engineer what they should do. When I play engineer, I like to institute the fortification strategies for the run. I will certainly accept requests, and I don’t mind if players adjust fortifications that are in their line of sight. If someone moves something in a way that compromises my strategy, I will move it back and communicate the reason.
When I am not playing engineer, I may make requests, but generally I try to bite my tongue when it comes to criticizing the engineers choices.
If I am playing engineer I do not like it when someone else tries to manage my efforts unsolicited,

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I try to do the same thing politely. Only they take it the wrong way and back out of the room -.-

It would be nice if, before you joined a custom match, there was a way to tell who (what gears) are playing currently. The little drop down could have “More Info” instead of just “Join”.

Anyway, engineering on a high level is a tough job. It pretty much follows a formula - but there are some tricks that not everyone is familiar with. Take the rotation of barriers as a simple example. I have gone into custom matches where every barrier is lined up across an entrance. I some cases a barrier is more effective lined up down the entrance. Some players will re-rotate the barrier because they think I’m a dumb ■■■ (maybe true). sometimes combinations of shock and gun traps are effective. Sometime people won’t store their defenses during a boss round.

I hate the mic thing. Have some protocol for speaking for ■■■■ sake. “Over”. I’d like to see some canned messaging like they have for the “Hello”, “Thank” you bull. But your hands aren’t free much so maybe this is a bad idea.

Perhaps if you could mark an item as owned. Perhaps each role is given a separate power budget to withdraw, allowing the engineer to donate extra if needed. Perhaps there’s an option to automagically load over budget power into the fabricator - would save time. Perhaps assigning the engineering role to anyone verses being stuck with an engineer with a crappy loadout or having to level up twenty chars to have multiple engineers. I guess some of these would make things easier, but I guess the point is to not be easy.

That’s it. Off for more coffee…

Letting the team move stuff is good to a degree but the engineer can lose track of stuff and repairs during the game can become problematic. For example, if the engineer places stuff in locations where he can repair while in cover that’s an example of sensible and efficient building. If others move stuff to locations where repairs can’t be made then the Base and team can become compromised because the team may need to revive the eng more than they would have if they placed stuff correctly. It’s not rocket science.

Mic’s are always great. I’m always down to play so if you need somebody with a Mic who likes playing I got you.

Right, I think if you aren’t the enginer it’s simple. Just ask the enginer if you can do something, I’m sure he will let you do what you need. Just let him know and life is good. Don’t move all his crap around or give him some feedback