Operation 5: Hollow Storm PvP

No, If that’s what I said you would’ve read that and quoted me🤦‍♂️

Did I though? If you can quote that then my hands are up, but I’m pretty sure I was quoting what Dana said on stream and I think it IS an exceptable trade off anyway :point_left::sunglasses::point_left: as much as I like escape the mode was very ambitious of TC and overall its left many players turning their nose up at it anyway, I believe they acknowledge this regardless of whether they have been shifting resources or not (Just a guess), AGAIN I like escape, but TC would’ve been better off working on a beast mode 2.0 imo, that had been asked for back in Gears 4 when players found out it was not included, moral of the story stick to what you know.

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Agreed 10000%

It’s called paraphrasing and quite sarcastically at that, if we want to delve into nitpicks than go ahead.

Why don’t you put quotes up so you don’t run this loop of BS

“I didn’t say that I was quoting someone else!”

Well their’s the quote.

They haven’t said this to my knowledge, they’ve acknowledged the hive maker’s shortcomings and the community’s lack of interest in it, But clearly they have the escape playerbase % and they know it’s not as popular as versus, the Horde and Escape playerbase overlaps so much so I don’t look at the playerbase as separate things.

But to insinuate that Escape was a failure is ■■■■■■■■.

Beast mode isn’t what TC knows, it’s been in one of the 7 Gears titles released. Lmao.

/Thread. I’m done talking with you about nitpicks and quotes lol

URM… How many gears games has escape been in??? HMMMM… Sounds very AMBITIOUS of them…

You said that last time.

And No… I’m done wasting my time with YOU, you literally make no sense and can’t even make sense of what I’m saying, good luck :+1:

I’m expecting to get a notification though :joy::joy:

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I think the game was fine when playing no aim assist game types when it first came out. Elsa Latino where these pros played had that aim setting

I was playing GoW4 PvP last night, as I am shifting more and more there… yes, most people are in g5, fine, but the game play itself, whoa…

The movement was amazing… I felt like the character actually DID was what I wanted it to do! It was awesome.

I played on Dam, so I had a large number of weapons to play with - the lancer felt great. The retro was awesome. Boom, Frags, and Drop were amazing, as I remember then… 3 shots in Drop - awesome…
The Core shotgun, well, yes, the two shot down range was still, imo, just a TAD too long, but it sure beats G5’s gnasher…

I was incredibly annoyed by bots racing me to pick up power weapons, yes… that is a very good change which TC made in G5, bots don’t try to steal the fracking pickups anymore (at least not in koth)…

So that’s 1 electorial vote for G5 and multiple for GoW4’s Core tuning…

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Out of curiousity what was the highest rank you reached in Gears 4/5? Do you even bounce? :thinking:

Onyx 2 in GoW4.

In g5? lol, donno, I hated it so much, I don’t think I ever got out of silver. MAYBE gold 1 in early days, while I was actually trying to make myself like it…

Bounce? Wall bounce? Nah, I think it’s a stupid mechanic. I don’t think I’ve ever wall bounced.

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That would explain why you dont want the changes implemented lmao not that hard to become a master when you have 5 stacks facin randoms… An the algorithm for finding similar skill is way off.
Always one sided teams , afks and quitters… Lmao half the time a guy bot walks an gets rewarded now

I mean obviously you are going to enjoy something you are better at, at that rank you probably don’t have to deal with Master level sweat squads so its pretty laid back comparatively.

Okay this is just jealousy and nothing more :roll_eyes:

once you learn to bounce you never go back lol, I even use it in PvE so its a gamechanger in terms of the options/freedom it gives you. Like imagine if you could fly type of thing (yes I know they got planes but I’m thinking wings)

Edit: I was just curious. I’ve been trying to convince one of my PvE friends to get into Versus but they lack confidence, Versus is pretty fun most of the time but it can get real boring at times and its not something I’d recommend playing more than say a couple of hours at a time as its really toxic and nerve racking.

I agree 100%. I haven’t played it in a while but it’s still the superior game. It feels like a Gears of War game for a start, in terms of both gameplay and design.

I defended Core tuning almost daily during Gears 4’s prime, it’s definitely the true way the game was meant to be. Brutal and unforgiving.

sorry but this is going to so one sided and selective because of who’s posting at. A former pro/coach?

the vast majority of players have no bloody clue who that is or even cares what a pro thinks. take anyone with a youtube/twitter presence and you’ll see the followers parrot and push that agenda. we seen it in the recent dev stream, one esport personality posts a comment and you have people spamming it for the reset of the stream.

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and we’ll see if the overall population drops again like it did with the TDM changes. you keep stripping away modes and squads it’s no wonder this happens

why was 4v4 never a talking point during the 13 years we played from Gears 2 to Gears 5? do you remember the players petitioning for 4v4 during Gears 3/4/5 development? I don’t

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well said.

also, i remember hearing Dana say that they will keep listening to the loud ones. @III_EnVii_III how many koth tryhards wanted 4v4? the koth community rejects this MORE than anything i’ve seen so far with gears 5 and that is saying a whole lot.

i mean, @TC_Sera, please put in the word from us here at the forums - the beta playlist isn’t to try anything out, it is to preview what is coming.

100% of the beta playlists always enters the game, no?

I feel like the game is being catered to those who play it while listening to music or streaming and don’t want their “vibe” killed by x or y.

beyond if anyone agrees or disagrees with a certain change, where are the common players who are asking for some of these things? that’s my gripe with this.

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Um have you ever won a 4v5 in koth? Yea me either there is way to many liabilities on my team 75% of the time … How am i carrying ppl single handedly playing intoxicated?
Kids on my team play worse than the Ai without the extra damage thats how bad they are…

You mean the professionals that only play a gamemode (Escalation) that was removed from ranked because of how bad and dead it was?

I mean, it’s okay to listen to them if we want a boring and slow game.

So your argument is that is great that TC changed it to 4v4, because your friends are antisocial and can’t get a 5th friend?

Damn, and I don’t even like 4v4 and I play solo lol

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Kinda of agree with this…

Honestly, it isn’t right to completely alienate and cut off a portion like that with escape. It’s clear TC had spread themselves too thin along different things and modes in the game…Because of their lack of commitment a portion of the community that came and began to enjoy that part of the game gets cut off and suffers instead.

Look and hire more people if you must AND commit to setting out what you were originally going to do. Commit to something and then see it through…don’t make the community suffer for your inability to make that happen.

Wait so… Gridiron just doesn’t exist anymore outside of custom lobbies?

We had it for one operation and that’s it?

The hell. That was my new favorite mode. Now we don’t have any single-life modes in any permanent playlist.

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