OP4 achievements are a joke - 100k kills, 50k assists, reup 40? Time to uninstall

Gears 5
#125

100k kills is just as much of a joke as Re-up 50. They are both totally achievable. I don’t have an OCD for getting every Achievements in Gears 5, I stopped with that habit in Gears 4. I most certainly won’t be going for this either.

Achievements like Re-up 40 and soon 50, and this 100k kills look like they could be a pain in *** for someone after Achievements or leaderboards like @GhostofDelta2. I would be against these kind of Achievements in the first place. They aren’t enjoyable at all, compared to easier and mid difficulty ones.

But uninstalling over Achievements seems ridiculous mentality to have. Just my opinion.

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#126

Some people do care about achievements and some people just simply don’t seem to get that.

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#127

There seems to be two kinds of people.

People who want something to do, so these massive grind Achievement exist. Just like when I had completed all characters and cards to maxed level, so figured I’d get maximum Re-up too.

And people who want Achievements for lots of different games. Well if you guys want this Achievement, go get it… it’s what you’re interested in, after all… okay, maybe not super massive grind cheevos.

#128

If OP doesn’t find the game enjoyable, and he finds fun in unlocking achievements but now the achievements feels like a total grind, he will unistall the game. It his way to play, and I understand if he feels that way.

Maybe he had a lot of other games to play (I had a 20+ backlog games), but Gears and other games took most of the HDD storage.

For me is something similar. I just have Gears 5 and 2 or 3 other xbox live arcade games and that’s all. If I wanted to play another game with high storage usage, I had to unistall Gears (Xbox have to handle my games and my husband’s games, and Rock Band 4 is immovable).

I know many players who lose the will to keep trying to unlock the new achievements. Some of them are from TA, others like the Gears series so much that they play and in the road they unlocked the achievements.

For me, I’ll try to unlocking every one of them but for my mental health it will be more slow than any other Gears (This year I receive a Nintendo Switch and I finished Mario Odyssey, now I’m playing Dr. Kawashima Brain Age and I want to finish my backlog of Nintendo 3DS games)

#129

There’s a third and I’m in that third group who wants to get every achievement for every game they play.

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#130

I think you fit in the second. Nice try.

#131

No. The second group you said wants lot of achievements for lots of different games. I want achievement of all games I play. The games I play appeal to me. Some people simply play any game just to bump their gamerscore.

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#132

Yes, it’s the same as every single game they play.

Well okay, if you play only two games, that might not be considered “lots”… but you do play loads. 100,000+ Gamerscore players fit that criteria.

#133

I’ve been on XBL for 14 years bro. My 200k gamer score reflect roughly 1 game a month assuming each game is 1k GS,

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#134

This is true.

Many TA members had a LOT of achievements playing almost everything and getting the most easily achievements. They buy Avatar the last airbender for 360 and they play almost every game pass ultimate game that can be completed in almost 1 or 3 hours.

Believe me if Gears wasn’t grind, my backlog will be less than 10 or even I would finished every game that I wanted xD

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#135

Yep, I passed on Avatar which offered 1k GS in a few minutes which goes back to what I said about playing games that appeals to me. I’m not playing just for the GS.

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#136

270k gs here 94% completion, ive played 5000 matches in quake 4 which was a grind just waiting the 2 minutes for the match to start. I too try and only play gms i want to play.

Some ppl just dont understand that ppl like unlocking achievements.

There is some gms ill play and just cant be bothered getting 100% as the gm becomes boring.

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#137

Agreed. GS and achievements was so popular that Sony eventually copied it from Microsoft.

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#138

Before they added 30 and 40, I made my own achievement to get 50. Now that they’ve added it, it seems deserved. But it wasn’t necessary. With the 100k kills, it seemed like a ploy to keep people playing. Gears isn’t as popular other games. So maybe that’s why they have Seriously and massive grind Achievements in their games.

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#139

I feel like its also because it was in the first game and its become a sort of legacy now.
PS: sorry about the explosive damage from the tackles.

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#140

Yeah same here,.

I only play certain franchises and want to complete them, like Gears and Assassin’s Creed.
I don’t care for getting the highest gamerscore and playing crappy easy gamerscore games.

Yeah, I have completed some Telltale games hehe… :blush:

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#141

I think there are two types of discussions here.

  1. How much do achievements mould your own way of playing games

  2. Do you think achievements should be achievable by a wide or narrow scope of players

For argument 1 there seems to be a big misconception around whether uninstalling a game is an overreaction. If you try to empathise with the people who use achievements as a goal when playing and something that defines when they are finished, uninstalling is not an over reaction. Consider that this person enjoys Gears of War, but doesn’t want to play only this game. They have played it for 10 months and sunk in 500 hours. The game itself hasn’t fundamentally changed but now they are faced with sinking in another 1000 hours of repetitive play. On the other hand, if achievements are something in the background for you and you love playing Gears then it’s like water off a ducks back. If you get it then great, otherwise it doesn’t matter because you are having fun playing.

For argument 2 it’s simple. Some people believe achievements should have the odd 1 or 2 that are super skill based or super dedication based in terms of time. This results in the majority of gamers only getting 90% of them and a small subset being able to say they are proud to have finished it. For other people achievements are about a challenge or some fun but it’s important that a great number of people should be able to get 100% in the game.

So let’s assume that everyone has a sliding scale for both of those things. Everyone is different and we are all going to argue about what’s right.

But for what it’s worth, if you couldn’t care less about achievements why don’t you get behind the people who really care about them and lobby for them to be more achievable?

Personally I’m not sure what I will do. I only like Horde and to a lesser extent the occasional Escape. Once I’ve mastered the new maps on normal horde and done all the maps on Horde Frenzy j will take stock. Because as other people have said, jobs, family etc mean my gaming time is limited and frankly I’m not missing out on the likes of Mario, Horizons, Forzas and Halos of this world to just play Gears.

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#142

How is it a joke? Because to me the way I understand this sentence it stands in opposition to what you throw in right after it.

If they are so achievable why is it that the people who play for fun and/or don’t spend 99% of their time playing Gears take issue at these absurdly ridiculous grinds that demand you play no other game for months or years and have no fun playing at that? I’m referring to Reup 50 here, in particular, because the 100k kills will come at least for some players without them having to grind until the game is nearly done for. The highest I’ve personally seen someone who hasn’t used DFB but seemed to have been grinding almost all the time instead is now Reup 36 or 37, and that’s apparently only halfway through to Reup 50, almost a year in. So nearly two years of grinding for one personal goal? That is not healthy, nor fun, and neither should it be that way.

It doesn’t mean I want the Reups to be a total joke to complete whenever TC change them, but currently the grind is so excessive with a not very well thought out ribbon system for XP(only thresholds count and if you exceeed them and get close to the next you get nothing more than if you’d just reached the minimum requirement for that threshold - so like, 15 or 20 ribbons in Horde gets the same as 27 or 29 - and the game simply stops awarding any and all XP if you exceed the max ribbon threshold) that it simply isn’t rewarding and basically useless to attempt doing unless you spent an unhealthy amount of time playing, sorry, I mean grinding, which then just sours when you reach the end goal.

I for one would like to reach the max Reup at some point, but even though I currently dedicate most of my time to Gears, I am simply not bothering to go for it directly because of the above as I do not want to and cannot spend 16-20 out of 24 hours constantly doing mind numbing grind.

Also don’t understand how the Reup 30/40 achievements and an inevitable Reup 50 achievement will be “deserved” when you obtained it through an extremely fast grind method that also really didn’t require that much effort, certainly not nearly as much as doing ribbons runs or, as others have apparently done, lots of 60 min Horde runs on a high difficulty. Which has nothing to do with whatever you had to do to get through so quickly, it’s just that I don’t personally see how it is rewarding or deserved.

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#143

What do you think I was trying to say by that it was a joke? I thought it might’ve been obvious or you could be twisting my words to mean something else. I can see why it might mean two things since I’m up there.

You can’t know how much of a grind the 100k kills were, even though 20 people have it on leaderboards. We don’t even know if these guys grinded high kill count in games. This seems just as much of a grind as Re-up 40-50 were. I could be in 40-50 already without DFB too. If someone ik is around 37-40 and doesn’t play for Ribbons in every Horde match, I know I would’ve already been in 40-50 leagues because I used to do 30 Ribbons in every public 5 players Horde matches. It is totally achievable, depending how you play and if you go for Ribbons or not. It doesn’t have to be DFB or Hail Mary. It could be nearly a year to get there.

It doesn’t matter how it was done, all that counts is that I spent 5 months and 1 months straight, doing mostly or Ribbons in nearly every match. You can’t really say how much effort it took since you didn’t grind as much as I did. From another person point of view who wants it, of course you won’t think it was rewarding or deserving because you don’t have it… but if you knew from my point of view, it was.

#144

It isn’t when you first say it is a joke and then go on to say that both are “feasible”.

And do you know how minuscule of a portion of the playerbase 20 persons at the top of the leaderboard are?

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