I wouldn’t say the developers are abusing players though certainly customers can spend their money elsewhere if they are not feeling valued or for any reason really.
It’s not a unique concept nowadays. The plan is to addict you to a particular game, get u to spend some cash and not look elsewhere. But those of you who are astute will recognise that the economic cash grab is flawed. Why? Because the game owners don’t give a flying ■■■■ about delivering a quality product
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I respectfully disagree. What they are doing is abusive. We’ll just agree to disagree.
I think abuse is going a bit too far but it isn’t a very healthy objective to set for any one really. I don’t like the argument that this is for Versus players, PvE already have their own achievements. No TC, none of the achievements in this game have been fun to get and that’s what they should be. Highlighting the fun parts of the game with reasonable challenges that don’t outstay their welcome.
I played one legit game of Guardian in a full lobby, probably the best mode outside of KOTH to get these achievements. The highest kill count in that, a game going down to the last round including a stalemate, was ~80 and I had about 40. Assuming the same situation 24/7 with an average of 60 kills in about 45 mins, would still take around 50 days to complete. It wasn’t enough to have the stupid allies achievement to grind, throw this in there too. Who knows maybe next Op they can throw in one for finishing 1,000,000 waves of Horde 
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Just because Gears achievements have always been grindy, does not mean you should get used to it and live with it. Just get them to make it fun again instead.
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Caring about gamer score in 2020 was your first mistake.
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What about caring about unlocking all achievements for games you play?
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That’s your second mistake. Neat, you get a pat on the ■■■ and some good boy points, you’ve certainly accomplished much. Going for achievements is one thing, but actually complaining when they’re too hard is f****ng imbecilic when the entire point is for them to be landmark accomplishments.
Well, your first mistake is what your conception of landmark achievement should be. Mastering all hives is quite an achievement. So is Mastering all Horde maps and Horde Frenzy maps. Doing all three is a landmark achievement.
Getting 100,000 kill is simply forcing people that want it, to grind for two years or more. There is nothing landmark about that. Same with reup 20 and beyond. Everyone knows there is some grind in Gears but the grind in this game is excessive and beyond comprehension. It may not be so bad if kills counted in all modes but just in versus? That’s just wrong.
There are many other games that don’t do things to make players grind to simply increase the population count. GTA V and Borderlands 3 come to mind. GTA V is always having special events, etc, to bring players back.
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In the last 5 days ive gotten about 2k kills playing quickplay, mostly guardian. my 100 million damage has went up 2 times and the 100 k kills also yet 50k assists hasn’t moved.
Does that mean i have to change how I play to simply get assists??
Why dont we get assists for spots also? Which is just as important as assisting ppl
Can you add spots to the assist achievement???
@mjrdecision
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I started Op 4 at 5,000 kills exactly (weirdly). Don’t know how many assists or damage, because there are no in-game leaderboards for those. I have already unlocked 100k kills, 50k assists, and 100M damage.
I’m fully aware that people will flame me for that statement, claiming I have no life, go outside, blah blah blah. Save it… it’s my time, my choice. Besides, people act like it’s impossible to play a game AND watch a TV show at the same time…
My point is that these achievements were never a multi-year grind. Kills, assists, and damage are all available to unlock in custom private versus games.
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Neat.
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Go back to the hyperbolic time chamber!
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Unsure if you know this or not, but that is what I call my shed/gym.
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Its your time to do whatever you want with it. No flaming from me.
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Congrats for the achievements,well done:+1:
Well at-least your able to play. I load up get into a game, get kicked, ban 15 minutes all while losing match entry. I wait the 15 min ban and it does it again. This game is trash. Every new operation they release breaks the game more and more. I’m fed up with how broken this game is.
Plenty of flaming from me.
(Inside joke for a way to get the 100M damage much much quicker)
Easy Solution:Git Gud
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Good guide on true achievements Website makes it a much quicker grind 
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Congrats on getting the achievement, very impressive commitment to getting these completed so quickly.
I still think that these achievements are ludicrous and take away from what achievements should aim to do: challenge and reward. It is an unnecessary grind that takes away from the core of the game. Ideally we should be able to get these achievements without grinding against bots all day for weeks.
Also for many of us, we don’t have multiple consoles and multiple controllers so that we can set up the optimum processes for grinding. I am sure even the coalition don’t expect us to get achievements this way, I think they have just massively miscalculated these achievements or simply not put much thought into them
Again, this is not me flaming you, I am genuinely impressed you have these completed. However, I don’t think because a handful of people complete them justifies that they should stay as they are, they are ridiculous requirements whatever way you look at it.
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