C’mon man, you should know that its not possible to carry someone to #1 position on the leaderboards. You can carry a not skilled player to top 1% position on some hyves but for #1 position. Without 3 very skilled players you are doomed.
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It should be made clear that the Reup XP farming with Death From Beyond getting patched out so no one else could reach it nearly as quickly was entirely Wolf’s doing. At least, in the sense that he was the one who cared about it getting patched so no one else could reach him. Ektope simply just cared for reaching Reup 50 for the sake of completion and seemed to not want it fixed or patched out(which TC apparently only did because it was “out of line with XP gain expectations”… go figure).
It’s almost funny how the people who don’t want nerfs are all “Don’t nerf because the OP characters don’t affect your experience and don’t bother you”(when they do) and that you shouldn’t bother other players because you don’t enjoy something, but when you do decide to voice your opinions regardless, you get responses like the above telling you that nerfs shouldn’t be done because something is “fun” even if it is detrimental to what the game should play out like. Telling others not to get bothered by broken or stupidly OP stuff but then getting very bothered by opposing opinions themselves…
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What I don’t like is if other people are pulled into this when they have nothing to do with it. I do respect others opinion but not if they’re based in a sense of “you have no right to demand anything like it”.
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It is a theme I have seen with the anti-nerf crowd. They often seem to ridicule or imply that asking for nerfs is ridiculous in their posts because it apparently does not affect you that something is OP. Apparently none of them have tried finding JD-less matches or ones with a less than ideal team composition with the stupid randoms in this game, even on lower difficulties than Incon/Master(not everyone has friends to play with all the time, ever thought of that? but no, the “meta” that only wants the most OP or “efficient” doesn’t have any effect on your experience of the game at all and you should just make your own lobbies that don’t populate 9/10 times… don’t miss the sarcasm).
The argument? They find the super OP stuff “fun” and they want to keep it for their own enjoyment. Then if you call for nerfs, you get called selfish because you want it nerfed for your enjoyment. But never once have I yet heard that wanting to keep the OP stuff because people find it fun is also selfish…
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They don’t get to nerf anything until EVERY card of every char works as described i.e. never.
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The theme is most people calling for JD nerfs rarely play on Master. Doing each map once on Master doesn’t qualify. One has to play consistently on Master.
I play a lot with randoms and do fairly well. I rarely play with my friends. I also do these long master runs on the weekend when I have time.
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I don’t intend to get caught up in an argument about it right now. All I’ll say is I’ll be content with buffs to the weaker characters to make them more viable overall. Assuming it actually makes people open to not having a JD when you’re doing anything below Inconceivable. But then that probably requires the “grind or nothing” mentality that seems to be all too prevalent to change, which I doubt is going to occur. Wonder how many people would actually be playing if it wasn’t just to grind instead of playong for fun.
And while I won’t claim to have done dozens of Master runs - it would simply not be true - I have played more than just matches for the launch maps required for Seriously 5.0, so it’s not like I’m basing my experience/claims solely off of runs done for achievements, but yet have to try a Master completion without a JD because of the length that matches will likely take without one and the bad balancing that makes it too uncertain whether things will even go anywhere. If JD was to be nerfed it cannot come without buffs to weaker characters, that wouldn’t be good. If they provide buffs and nerf nothing - which apparently is what they(TC) were intending to do by their own words, buff rather than nerf - then so be it. I’d get what I asked for and the JD fans will still be happy.
I still think the Horde enemies need some tuning down. Drone Elites especially. Fighting them on Master(or above Elite/Insane) simply isn’t fun after some point and a major reason I have kept away from Incon and Master in Gears 5.
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I didn’t know we were arguing.
The simple solution is to buff the other characters but then we’ll have people complaining it’s too easy. You can’t please everyone and people will always complain about one thing or another.
I was just making clear I didn’t intend to get caught up in any arguments before anything got started.
If Cole gets nerfed I’m going to drop this game like a bad habit. Sick and tired of all these damn nerfs. Just because a handful of people are any good with him it doesn’t mean he should be neutered into uselessness like Clayton was.
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How exactly is Clayton useless? They just corrected his broken card the same thing applies for Lizzie and Baird. Those weren’t nerfs, those were corrections.
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I was busy playing Versus till the end of OP2, and what brought me back to Escape is Cole appearance.
I’m sure that Escape’s player-base has spiked after introducing Cole and if he gets nerfed then that mode is an off limit.
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All they “nerfed” on Clayton was his ultimate card working properly right?
How is that making him useless??? You can still get his ultimate super fast by working as a team and taking damage and getting picked back up. He shouldn’t have his ultimate every 15 seconds.
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Thats Where You’re Wrong, Kiddo.jpg
Kiddo? You’re the one struggling with escape.
All 26 hives mastered,top 5% most maps. Can’t struggle if you’re a master taps forehead
Riggghhhht. Yet you consider only a handful of players good with Cole and Clayton useless.
PvE has more pressing needs then fixing things that aren’t really broken.
Honestly I am getting tired of the I completed it so now nerf attitude in games. Its really getting on my nerves. I like cole, I like having him on my team and I like playing his character as is. Too many times I have heard from people who completed something and go “oh thats stupid nerf it” but all the while they were as silent as a grave while they were using it. Too many times have I heard from people who freedom lanced their way through master runs just to level out JDs cards and now those same people want a nerf … just stop. For me I find these to be player problems than actually problems with the character. A while back I started using different characters to level them up and I found the 2 I was leveling to be more than capable of being on the same level as JD and even a number of times have beaten JDs on damage and kills.
Look I get you are trying to help the game and all that but there are people who like playing this way and there are people who like cole as is but are team players (as in dont run off as cole or JD and kill everything) and I don’t think nerfing a character will help anything. All I can see here is a player mastered all hives with cole but is now calling for a nerf and honestly thats just looks bad and thats what alot are going to see.
Maybe not a popular opinion and maybe not very well constructed but I have had a nerves tested day with this game today so im a bit all over the place lol. Leave cole as is.
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The Coalition when they nerf a character:
Following this trend of nerfing a cool character for the glory of “”"“balance”""".
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