So What Do You Guys Think Seeing As TC Octus Has Basically Left TC Now , so has Rod Ferguson* so I feel Microsoft need to buy epic games and they need to help TC out with the gears of war franchise it’s getting worse day by day and someone needs to do something about it, If Microsoft buys Epic , it’ll give them a game advantage over Sony Too, so we need Epic Back Someone from ms or TC please read this!
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Epic Games is now a 3rd party publisher, not just a studio. That’s like Microsoft buying EA.
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Epic?
I do not think Microsoft Studios has enough money to buy Epic at the moment. They’ve made so much money that they keep dumping insane amounts just to keep the Epic Store alive.
EPIC 2011 =/= EPIC 2020
It’s not like all the people who worked on the old games are still working at EPIC. Some of the biggest faces from the Original Trilogy was Rod and Cliff, what would introducing EPIC (A terrible and greedy company imo) change other than make Gears more casualized than some say it is now?
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Epic is a massive company and not everything can be bought with money being thrown around. You do realize Epic has their own launcher and gaming eco system they can deliver games with?
Epic prints money with Fortnite. If gears had any value to Epic they wouldnt have sold it to MS.
Why on earth would they even consider selling any part of their company to MS especially when it comes to a game they had no problem giving up?
I am pretty sure MS bought it in the first place because Epic was going to shelve it. For real, MS bought Epic’s trash when they purchased gears.
And this kills me to say it because this was once my favorite game but I have had to take off those rose colored glasses with the release of 5.
I think some of you around here need to wake up and see reality. This is just a shell of gears now. Everything has been downhill since gears 3. Much like Halo(though Halo is far more popular), this is a dying IP searching for “new players” while ignoring those who were here from the beginning and still keep giving them chances.
Gears is a sinking ship and when I see posts like this talking as if Microsoft or TC will even read this let alone think “Oh, this guy is right. We should just buy Epic and everything will be ok” is next level fantasy to think your words are of any importance to a company that obviously doesn’t care about the player base it built which is consistently demonstrated by their choices, communication(or lack of), title updates(or lack of), shop and bleeding of devs.
They are not bleeding employees because “they couldnt cut it”, this is obvious signs of a not so great future with the gears brand.
Tactics looks more true to gears than 5 does…that should speak volumes.
In fact I think it may be a good idea just to stick with the hyper xcom gameplay for a while and let this sit on a back burner for a few years.
This is a game with a niche audience that they dont even want so why bother trying to make this any better when the moment a younger “new player” shows up ,they will ignore you like a jock ignores his girlfriend for the new girl in school.
The only things that will save Gears is to take a hiatus from releases for a few years until they can find the core again then innovate based on the things that made this such a cult game in the first place.
They need to embrace the underdog role again. Throwing money around isnt going to fix anything when there is no vision,soul or heart anymore.
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HOW? Because it has Locust and returns to the older styles we have seen in the past games? Outside of writing and artistic design, Gears 5 is much closer to “Gears” than Tactics is.
That “Underdog” role is the reason EPIC sold Gears to begin with. Because they didn’t have the money to support such a large IP (relatively for the time and company) but once Gears was out the window most of EPIC left to either pursue something else or come right back to Gears (Like Rod did)
I think he probably left because he wanted to see Gears go in a new and innovative direction and all of the hate around, “It’s too colorful, basically a cartoon. Not Gears whatsoever,” proved to him that the existing audience wouldn’t be okay with it, and Blizzard was offering more money–so go do that instead of trying to slog along with an audience that bashed them on everything new they tried with 5.
I have always played gears like an rts in my head when running a strategy so when they present it that way, that is how it feels more like gears. This goes well beyond surface level observation.
And to your other point. Yes, the audience that bashed 5 is the core audience. You just proved my point about the new girl in school. TC wanted to get the attention of the new girl who moved on the moment her attention went elsewhere while pushing out the people who stuck with them from the beginning.
You act like those criticisms are just invalid hate. What makes you such an authority to right off everything you disagree with as just “hate”?
Even when you are looking at reality are you still just going to blame a boogie man of trolls and hate for the downward spiral of gears?
wtf
no, no, no
Have you not noticed that Microsoft is the problem here and now you want them to “buy” Epic?
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When did I say that everything I disagreed with was hate? All I said towards “hate” as a subject was that Rod probably left the game because of it, not that it invalidates the game?
And yeah I didn’t say anything about this either.
That is where you mentioned the hate. I did expand upon it a bit but did not come up with it from nowhere.
And this is also where you mention those who bashed 5 so yes you did talk about those things
In passing retrospect but I never insinuated that the hate was invalid or without purpose or anything like that.
I understand that point and do note that I admit I did expound upon it beyond the original statement.
Of which there was actually talks at one point.
That being said, Epic Games is owned by Tencent. Microsoft can’t just buy them out without serious bankroll. Microsoft would also have to justify to the rest of the investors on acquiring the company as a whole, its properties and taking on an administrative role as Epic does business through its Unreal Engine with various partners and companies across the industry.
Plus Fortnite would make the bill a lot more expensive. If MS wanted, they could have bought Epic a long time ago.
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One could almost make the argument that in time Epic could buy out MS when it comes to the games.
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Thanks. The Haters do exist, as they always will the “TC Laziness with Carmines,” thread is proof of that. But at the same time there’s a lot of criticism. My point of hate towards 5 driving away Rod was more to do with critical reception rather than just trolls and haters.
EPIC games shares a 40% stock with Tencent, EPIC themselves are the majority shareholders.
Definitely not. EPIC (by best estimates, Forbes) has a net value of ~1.7 Billion, MS is over the Trillion mark.
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why is every Xbox fan’s solution a “buy out”?
I’ve been hearing it for decades. From Nintendo to Steam to Sony to any number of Publishers and countless Developers.
News flash, they don’t want to be bought out in the first place. They want Independence and freedom.
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That is MS as a whole. That includes every other aspect of the company outside of games. Find an estimate of just their games development and compare. I am done trying to talk with you as you seem to just want to argue now.
Here we go again. Thread number 5478 on this. Let’s see how this dissolves.
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Sources I found put Xbox at 15-12 Billion, which is still 10+ times higher than EPIC. EPIC is a giant in gaming with their sad storefront and Fortnite but outside of that they’ve got nothing. While Xbox just took on 18 studios and owns hundreds of valued IPs not to mention their branching connections throughout the industry.