Provides a before screenshot. OP now asks for an After screenshot
You keep moving the goalpost. You believed you couldn’t lose points if you won with MVP, and I, along with many others, are showing you that yes, you can and it’s still very much possible. You didn’t know what you were talking about. It was your very first post on the forums. You were out of the loop. It happens. Move on.
Just show me an after
One question did you go full squad to get masters or solo tdm cause at the state of the game that its in now i highley doubt you earned it from skill all luck
Yup. Three MVP matches today, only one I got positive points. The other two awarded me ZERO. Hell the amount of games I’ve received nothing in the last week has been too many to count, lots being wins.
Honestly I just wanna see this whole system scraped. FFS we’re six months into Gears 5 and TC has failed to fix it after a handful of attempts.
Ever since the update i lose so many points and gain 0 points i had 2 friends rage quit already pretty hard to rank up when u have a fkn scrub random on youre team go 1 n 18 n some how u lose points foh
and that is good, no?
my grandma shouldnt be master cuz she wins on a stacked
maybe have the ranking system be a bit more simple and just go off damage done and make the result a plus or minus
for me, the ranking system has been working from the beginning. never had trouble moving up or anything.
Coalition logic hey lets make it so if they win the match but give up a round we’ll give em 0 points instead and when they lose no matter what negative so they quit the game even if you win both. Rounds in games you get barely any points favored or unfavored i checked how random that bs is
14-3 in Guardian. Zero points.
By the way, in the beginning of round 2, Gears 5 decided to kick me from the match and disconnect from services. Joined back end of third. We then won two straight.
So not only did I get kicked from the game (which is happening a lot recently) and lose 600 points for the rounds i missed, but also received ZERO total. Three technicals issues plaguing this game.
Alright man, don’t be like this LOL. If they got it they go it.
I’ve personally been D2- high D3 since I started playing ranked again in early Jan. I can say it’s only more difficult to earn points at these ranks for two reasons:
Performing exceptionally well for the systems expectations in a high skill game (90-95k+) is harder because everyone is decent & prob doing their job, a 2-0 victory were you didn’t drop over 30 is like 10-20 points max. A lot of the time , you’ll just break even (0). That’s also a reason why it can be harder to gain points if you’re in stack with players around your skill level. The stack will probably win more often obviously but it could collectively take them more games. A few examples:
The second reason it can be harder to perform (win rounds mostly) to the level the system predicts for you because the matchmaking. So obviously if you’re the highest rank player on your team the system expects you to do more but that can naturally be harder if your other 3-4 teammates don’t know how to play the game. There’s that weirdness with the game that once you get around D2 (especially D3 and Masters) you will get paired more often than not with 2-3 early bronze/silver players. You’ll also still be running into stacks so that can be real tough. In this instance, it’s harder to perform because the systems predicted outcome for your team is heavily weighted on you. But these games are also the best chance for solo players to gain a ton points, given you manage to hard carry your team to a victory.
There’s been some tweaks to the rank system within the last couple week or so and apparently you can’t lose points on a win anymore (zero point glitch or whatever) so that’d overall might make things at little easier. I think those two things are feasible things for any good-great player to overcome (if not eventually), so I can’t say it there’s much luck involved because look at all the unfavorable situations the system puts you in.
The only luck in the ranking system if playing solo is whether you get good teammates. Since that is basically random. Other then that they made the ranking system easier after the last update. The top ranks are still the top ranks for a reason, and to be at that level you obviously need to win a lot and be MVP a lot.
Oh yea, most definitely. I like that winning doesn’t automatically mean XP gain. I’m simply highlighting how OP is wrong in his beliefs that you can’t win with MVP and lose points.
Yeah, that’s exactly how it feels to me as well.
Ranked sucks bro i already dropped to a silver 3 from a diamond 2 in a matter of 2 days… Game just sucks u shouldn’t lose any points for ■■■■■■■ teammates suckin … Sorry i cant carry noobs every game … Ranked is not easier at all…against 5 man stacks? Even if i get mvp and if we manage to win …get 0 points… What a joke
They made it a little harder as a solo player to gain the ranks by weighting the W/L more over personal performance with the last update (last week or 2). If you haven’t already I’d look at this topic here: Big changes to the Ranking system
I honestly agree that you shouldn’t be losing any significant amount of points because your team isn’t up to snuff. The post says before you’d likely been seeing negatives points on a W because you lost rounds to a team predicted to lose 2-0. That explained a lot to me especially before when I’d put up like 12 die once or twice, happen to lose the round but score 0 or negative points.
I think the problem there was always that they’re weighting W/L for the round more over your personal contribution toward the W. Individuals were/are being punished more for not meeting the systems round win prediction over actual performance. Instead of addressing this they just double downed and made it so all those choked rounds matter even more than before now.
The one thing they did to try to make it a little better is if you lose these predicted round Ws , happen to go negative in points but win the match, the total will default to 0 lost. Problem is, winning the match might prevent points loss but personal performance no longer alleviates punishment as well on a round/match lost with the new 80/20 split.
I don’t really think I like these changes much at all but I’ll have to play more to have a definitive opinion.
Love an explanation for this one… What if i actually beat them both rounds i mean its not based off individual performance now but i get trash cans on my team so i derank 8 times? Point system is completely random 3000 points? Since when can you get that much at onyx 3? Then negative 6500 for a loss round pretty sure we were unfavored to begin with… 0 points? Refund my time invested cause i lose sleep playin this stupid game when i got work the next morning
I think the number it chooses for the rounds to make the end result 0 is random.
I haven’t tried rank yet so idk what happens in that scenario atm but that current screenshot is showing a round lost.
We barely lost that round it came down to a 2 v 1 with 30 seconds yet an of course idiots cant clutch 30 sec of waitin … Dude on the other team said well there goes my masters and then randoms completely choked… The ranking system was bad before but now its even worse just saying i dont have fkin 4 friends available at all times to win both rounds
That’s the problem. It’s more like a black or white situation now. Did you win the round or not?
Yes: Points No: Negative a few thousand points
Personal performance? It only accounts for 20% of the points gained or 20% of the points you don’t lose.
Its bad when you need to outplay high pings to over 50 percent of the time im battling ping or a completely stacked team thats all followin each other… If its not based on individual performance anymore then whats the point in playing? Like i said i dont have 4 friends always available to play because they are busy
Honestly, I just played my first two rank games in a couple weeks and I managed to get back to Masters. Now I was already pretty close before hand and I didn’t really need to gain too many points but it felt easier for whatever reason. The 1 round I lost I got -1 points for and I had a teammate quit out after.
I think before they changed the rank tier thresholds to be static it also would’ve made that a lot harder. Prior to the change the more people that moved into the Master range the more points were needed to reach it until you pretty much needed to hit the 20,000 cap to get there. The leaderboard was pretty much ‘alive’ because it was based on what percentile you fall in relative to how many points everyone else has.
(Just wanted add that this actually made it more difficult to get to Masters toward the end of the operation than it was in the beginning since more people were Masters and way more people were partying up to try to clench the rank rewards before they were gone.)
I think you’ll be fine if you choose to keep playing but maybe try taking a couple days off to give yourself a refresh.
