Not sure what you expect me to say. Maybe… saying koth is more “competitive” than tdm is laughable?
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Being rank 8 for tdm wins i can honestly say that taking tdm out of the ranked playlist made me not wanna play at all since that was all i played. Koth is fun and competitive but were all grown now i dont like the bloody battles of koth the lenthy time of the game is like 30 minutes or more tdm matches are more like 10 … But if its getting fixed honestly the worst part about tdm is quiters , the noobies using up all the lifes i hope it comes back to ranked
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Short Time limit. Whatever team has less lives loses anyway, so…
Ranked
25 respawns. Exactly 5 lives per player. You lose 'em all? Then you yourself are out til the round ends.
2 rounds. 5 minutes, after that 5 minutes if a team has more lives they auto win the round.
‘after pickup’ weapon spawns.
Shorter and faster weapon spawn timers.
No dbno after first.
Quickplay and custom version with Multiple rule options for variants to not make it boring as sin to play.
(headshots only and no melee, time limit, gnashers only, weapon loadout sets - standard loadout, power, precision, rifles, and cycling/randomized weapons in variants with multiple rounds, mace only, heavy only, tbow tag, etc.)
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5 mins is a really short time to kill 25 people… Other than that, I like all of your ideas
I totally believe that this is another instance/example of TC being desperate to have something that’s THEIRS in the game, and not just a re-mastered version of what Epic did. New game modes, new weapons, new movement/map/weapon balances, etc… They don’t want to be simply enhancing someone else’s product, they want to create something new and unique…
Problem is, the ‘new’ things are still too Gearsy to appeal to Fortine people, BUT the changes make it not Gearsy enough to keep appealing to the old fans… so it’s a lose/lose situation for them.
I liked Versus in GoW4… I can’t stand it in Gears 5…
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Any game mode can be campy.
Can say “king was built for campers” or “grid iron was built for campers”
All about the opponent you play & their play style.
People can camp the hill just as they can camp a flag.
It’s how you get out of those situations that defines your counter.
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I agree with this… Well said 
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Some reason it’s hard for them to see that.
I mean… To be honest, defeating campers can be quite difficult for the inexperienced. And even for those versed, it’s still pretty challenging getting the timing right.
My personal friends who play do camp alot in TDM. It’s their favorite mode & their playstyle is very defensive with maybe one or two teammates attempting flanks to get the kills in. It usually works & we win alot, however, we’ve come across a few teams that have legitimately just steam rolled us. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a stacked team either. There are just people who are good at maneuvering & exploiting any openings provided. It’s a subtle art.
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I think ranked is in a pretty good spot.
Do you really need a rank in tdm? Just play for fun in quick play.
Yes we do. We do need ranked TDM.
If I have to explain why social tdm doesn’t compare to ranked tdm then this isn’t the forum for you.
Not to be rude. Be nice if this ranking system was applied to tdm.
Just like in OP3 all modes suffered from the broken ranking system.
It’s nice to play in op4 & know you’re getting players around your pool ranked.
But if this was also in tdm it would solve a lot & be just as effective.
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@TC can you provide an update, can we have this back now?
I have been trying to like the state of casual TDM, but failing
- the lobby are not full, alot of the time, they are uneven in number
- the players are not balanced (skill levels)
- there is no sense of achievement or that there is anything on the line (nothing to loose)
3 quick points which adds to make it boring
I can go on
- the lobby does not change players, which means we do not get a fresh team pushing against you in a different way
- the map selection between games it broken and will not let you select a map
- the music at the end of the round its plain annoying
- if you PWN the other side they just quit
- one match on a map if you lose, its done, there is no bring it back for the epic win (which is a rush)
- people just quit, which they can do in a causal, but then where is the competitive fun? oh wait TDM is not ranked.
Can someone please update us on the situation with RANKED TDM,
Causal seems completely pointless.
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I guess you either only play casual or one of the supported ranked modes?
lets assume the latter, what would you say if they removed your preferred game mode?
However the comment is not really that constructive, How has removing Ranked TDM improved your ranked experience? I can easily say how its ruined mine and have (you will find comments from me in this thread)
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love you opinion here,
it would be cool if they would say that they wanted to be more Cod/Fortnite. I know they have to look at ways to grow the player base, but I do not think removing Ranked TDM was the move.
(i also loved the versus in G4, but also loved it in G5)
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If they removed the chainsaw flinch/interrupt when taking any damage i might try ranked again. I feel the lancer isnt bad, the movement isnt horrible… But i was a huge chainsaw poweruser in gow4 and they totally fracked that in g5 with control changes and bugs… Removing the interrupt would help to get over some of those.
I hate the nerfed explosives , the weak boltok, the weak markza, etc… I dont know what they are moving towards, honestly
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Amen to this. Casual is so bad it seems designed to drive you away from quickplay TDM.
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Don’t forget to add the matches that start and then end before anyone has the chance to fire a shot.
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thanks for finding this 
“its exceptionally popular”!!!
re trolls, ban them, I can easily record and put proof somewhere (Xbox, Youtube, twitch)
will it come back, yeah, no, maybe… the only thing we can do for now is try and provide feedback that we want it back
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Put TDM back on ranked please!
Is this the only PVP shooter that doesn’t have a Deathmatch as a main mode???
2v2 is my favourite mode but when my friends arent online its all about Deathmatch. I enjoy a KOTH occasionally but I like my kills to count more than a ring! When it comes to a game where the objective is to kill the opponent surely TDM should have a spot on ranked…
In hope…
Many thanks 
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This right here. We have a winner here lol!! This would be the best (& most direct) way for TC to communicate their plan.
Something like removing a current staple temporarily is a huge change and to not explain it through the op4 breakdown/message of the day thing is a massive oversight.
TC has made some good progress and so far the new rank system seems pretty solid. So good job TC! Thank you TC for making some efforts for better communication, but some things (like this tdm debacle) need to be communicated directly to the community within the game.
The only reason I knew what was going on with tdm was because of seeing people talk about it on the forums. Even the, there has been a ton of confusion around the issue and many people who have no idea what’s going on other than tdm is just gone from the game. Like the mode or not, people (not me) are leaving because of it (or the lack of clarity/understanding of the issue).
It’s like coming home from work to find out a family member or roommate sold your couch without telling you, and when asked about it they said “well I announced the offer on Facebook story, did a live stream, and put it out on Craigslist. How did you not know? I communicated about it, that’s on you”
Lol like who does that? Mistakes happen and if they own it and learn from it, then cool everyone can move on! (I think the solution for something like this is the one SKORGE quoted)
If TC is still wondering why all the hate/saltiness, they need to realize that they aren’t consistently communicating their plans with big changes within the game (which is the most direct path to reach every person playing the game), and accept that most people don’t keep up with Twitter or the live-streams.
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