Jack is OP in Horde. Change my mind

Agreed. If they bring out some serious nerfs for all characters, I will consider coming out of retirement. The only buff I see any place for, is with Elite Drones. Up their rate of fire, movement speed or… something!

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I know the perfect thing : Give them more damage and accuracy, they are absolutely lacking in that aspect.

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Lol.

You owe me some sweet tea.

Mine went all over the table.

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Yeah.

Might as well remove all buffs on all characters too. We should spawn bleeding, everyone gets locked into a loadout of Gears 4’s " A real gun" only, make it to where if players are even glanced at they get insta-gibbed, and if they miss their active reload they just explode killing everyone on the team.

Apparently this game isn’t hard enough for a select few people so just go ahead and ruin everyone’s day. Fark it, just compound the sucktitude and permaban anyone who misses a single round. We deserve games completely devoid of fun because if even one person on my team is having a semblace of enjoyment then I get infuriated because they like something I don’t and I totally deserved all their kills.

/sarcasm

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*ha! Well said … i don’t understand these calls to nerf characters from people who find them ‘overpowered’
It’s not mandatory to equip skill cards for every slot .

It seems to boil down to “ if I equip this particular card it makes my character overpowered- so I’ll equip it anyway then complain it’s there “ …!!!

The other explanation is as above - they don’t like seeing anyone else on the team doing better than themselves .

For those that find the game too easy - simple play with only 3 cards equipped or none at all or close your eyes and pick random cards for your hero … then buy sentrys and use Trishots *

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I like the idea and you have and easy solution for the cog soldier just bring the steam grenades back

I thought about that, and it would work. The thing that held me back is that you would have limited numbers to use which in itself isn’t a bad thing. I don’t know if the COG Gear would have a way of increasing their grenade capacity, which gives players a dilemna - do you want stim grenades or something offence orientated? In some ways having limited number of stim grenades still makes them inferior to JACK from a medic perspective.

What about of the gears 4 soldier card that used to have you grenades regeneration and capacity

I think that would be a good idea. Although I think this idea would be better allocated to a new future Hero. I guess the COG Gear is here to stay as they are now and any changes would be relatively small. Adding a distance revive mechanic may be doable. But I think the stim-grenade idea would be great for a future character.

I suppose my question is, will this character be a broader grenadier-style character or an alternative medic? I think as an idea these grenade capacity and resupply buffs could apply to all types of grenades. It would make it interesting and give players freedom to choose for themselves - e.g.: they could be an alternative to JACK in the medic role, or they could be an offensive grenadier to do high damage depending on what grenades they chose.

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Don’t be stupid if the nerf all the character they will ruin horde for ever go play master and you will understand

Simple solution: cooldown on stims like in Overrun.

That’s the joke. Or it would be if there weren’t people screaming for JD to get further nerfed.

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