Exactly, it’s not a high twitch game, you can still eat a shot and close down distance and pretty much shoot at the same time on Xbox too.
Once you learn it, no one really mentions it except those that perhaps have gone back and forth.
But then you just adjust your play style.
I play on a 5 years old tvset + first xbox… And it’s hard to challenge guys like you… I am disadvantaged…
The only way remove the “FORCED V-SYNC” is buying an “AMD-FREE-SYNC” monitor. This will keep the triple buffering the Free-SYNC is a lot less laggy than V-SYNC is similar to G-SYNC nvidia.
Caping GEARS 5 to 58.50 FPS on CONSOLES removing triple-buffering and v-sync will eliminate 95% the tearing issues and nobody will notice these 1.50 FPS less
There are young kids on very old / standard TVs getting diamond 
True,
But Xbox has HDMI VRR which has very limited support.
No monitor has this spec.
Only HDMI 2.1 TVs.
That 4 frame delay he is talking about appears to be in addition to the expected delay at 60fps, which means 64 additional milliseconds on top of the PC version at 60fps. For sure VSync and Triple Buffering don’t help, but if you compare Gears 5 to other Xbox games including Gears UE, something is very wrong. Halo: MCC and Gears UE have significantly less input lag. In fact I just went and played Gears UE, and it’s night and day. In fact it’s so much worse in Gears 5 I’m honestly confused how it’s even possible. @TC_Octus can you please shed some light on this?
I highly doubt it’s THAT high.
Or else the Pro’s would have picked up on it immediately.
I believe when it was professionally tested it was stated to be a 3 frame delay which is 16.6ms per frame.
A 3 frame delay (assuming 60fps) is 50ms. 1 frame is equivalent to 16.66ms.
It’s entirely possible it’s a build-specific thing, because yes I agree, pros would find this absolutely unplayable. There is no way it was like this when they played. But I can assure you that what Soul reported is absolutely the case, I could feel it instantly. In fact, the Bootcamp mode at 30fps felt like 200+ms of delay.
Can bootcamp be in 30fps? On the Xbox X, it is at 60fps. It could be like how in Gears 4 the game has a “performance” mode to run campaign and horde at 1080p60, though the setting isn’t available in the playtest. Older Xbox models could, possibly, only be doing 30fps for the Bootcamp.
I’m not sure why you’re struggling with this. It existed in Gears 4 and we were talking about it for a long time. Gears 5 is built on the same structure, some say it looks like a re-skin, and you’re surprised that it has the same input latency??
Consoles get fame buffers because the developers prioritize a smooth visual display. That’s just the way it is. Processing power doesn’t come free.
Struggling with this? How is stating numerical data “struggling?” If PC does have an advantage in frame data, then the playerbase should know about it. That is all my data is hoping to show, for the knowledge for the community. Having a 66ms advantage for a game would be justification for console players to disable crossplay.
So, next, I am currently in the process of creating a video showing input lag values for different Gears games. Spoiler, Ultimate edition with Xbox vs PC is only a 1 frame difference. Could it be an issue with UE4 vs UE1 on the xbox hardware? Who know, though if possible TC could look into the issue, and possibly fix it. Making these differences known to developers is why they want feedback. If they can lower the lag, that is a win for everyone.
I highly encourage you to think before you speak. I would greatly appreciate it. “It existed in Gears 4” is not a reason why the trend should continue.
I know you’re upset because you thought you found something unknown here but, like I said, we already knew about it. We’re not surprised that’s it’s in the next game because, as we tried to explain to you, consoles have limited processing power and the developer will always prioritize visuals. The proof is in the fact that there’s a frame buffer. They didn’t change it before, they’re not changing it now.
You’re not the first person to rage about this in here. We had multipage threads on the last forum.
Interesting. I have an OG Xbox One, and it seemed to run at 30 for me.
You do know the Xbox One X has a lot more power than the Original Xbox One and One S?
For a console, it’s very powerful.
It was confirmed awhile ago that TC were looking to have Gears 5 4K 60 on One X across all modes.
They didn’t really say anything about the regular and One S.
But I’ve not played it myself so can’t confirm but I’d expect them both to be 60FPS if not 30 on everything but Versus on OG Xbox.
Thanks so much for taking the time to make that video, it sounds really helpful. I’m curious how Gears 4 will compare to Gears 5 in terms of actual numbers.
There’s no reason they can’t optimize the One X to run with less input delay and minimal tearing. Graphics MAY suffer a bit but they should be able to give One X users the option.
If they’re pushing crossplay then it should be a no brainer.
There was a detailed thread and analysis on the old forum with videos explaining about gears 4’s input delays. So while it may not be new to people who used the old forums, it’s good to know. Especially for the newer players or those who didn’t see the thread before it was deleted.
Yeah, and guess who did that input lag analysis! (hint: it was me 
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Unfortunately, people get heated over things like this. People immediately go to saying “it doesn’t matter” or “that’s just how it is” but with so many more crossplay titles coming to Xbox/PS4/PC, it is very important to show which platforms have an advantage and by how much.
For anyone else reading, I highly suggest checking out a youtube channel called BattleNonsense. He does input lag analysis videos. He did one of Fortnite comparing the different platforms due to crossplay, and the results are rather surprising. If lag difference from one platform to another is great enough, that would be valid justification for someone to disable crossplay for their platform of choice. I would prefer if Gears 5 is not like that if TC is capable of reducing it, as a larger community is nothing but beneficial for us.
you’ve had the Eureka moment, albeit a negative one. welcome to the master race