I think we need to stop comparing Gears to Siege

yeah, to be fair, I have never played Siege, but I have a vague idea of what it is, and I think what @B1MB3R9124 said above hits the nail right on the head: don’t company PvP against a PvE game… Pointless…

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Siege have PvE?

No one tell these guys about Terrorist Hunt. Not that Ubishit cares about it anymore.

From what I know, there is some pve mode, but from most of what people say about it, it sucks hard, it hasn’t got much replayability and is boring.

Seriously i hate this comparison and at this point it’s just reaching. What casual is making this comparison?

What a ■■■■■■■.

He’s gotta point there.
Gears 5 was trying to be the Siege of PvE.
Unique abilities, restricted loadouts(as of now, pre OP4), the “nerf the good characters” mentality.

Of players or the dev? And I don’t see anyone claiming for nerfs other than for JD, with the exception of people who for some forsaken and unknown reason think Kait is OP and hardly requires skill to play.

Both
TC have nerfed Kait already(under the guise of “fixing her”) and players have want Cole Nerfed.
And the fact that the Matriarch can’t be completely killed by bleeding damage.

I soloed Horde with a level 1 Cole on Advanced difficulty. My first one session of all 50 waves. With bots, granted, but still. That should tell people how op Cole is.

Oh, that. It did have the indirect of increasing the damage from bleed when all or most pellets hit an enemy but deffo not great for when enemies camp outside of effective Overkill or Gnasher range.

Bruh your OP, level 1 cole is trash so if you can win with him that speaks to your skill level moreso than anything else.

This reminds me of that person who was boasting about their skills playing as Grace. The context was that some of us were talking about Melee Brawl and how Grace is actually a reasonably viable character for that hive. Anyway, we concluded that Grace isn’t much use in Horde, and it was just that Melee Brawl was made for melee fighters. This person starts saying how Grace is powerful in Horde and that they play as Grace in Horde all the time and go round gibbing things with the Gnasher.

When I asked them what difficulty they play on, they dodged the question at first. They later admitted to only playing it on beginner! They then tried to claim that the fact they can do it on beginner was proof of their skill. :smiley:

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Freezing Imagos catching Grace players off guard would like to have a word with that. They completely wreck her whereas Cole and Lahni at least have a chance to stand against those things.

The key word is “reasonably”! Grace is still easily the worst of the melee characters, but I’ve actually mastered the hive using her, which is a first. I hadn’t thought this possible for me when the character first came out.

Well when I tried mastering the hive with a friend playing Grace and a random while I was Mac(a second attempt, as we’d done it prior with Cole, Lizzie and me as Lahni), I at some point ended up being the last one alive in the second act not even halfway through it. Which I wasn’t certain if I could do it so that attempt didn’t go anywhere.

The Imagos really need to be killed first. I’m sure they would wreck Cole and Lahni just as easily too.

They are more easily avoided by Lahni at the very least. I sure was not killed by them when I was her in our first Master run.

And the Imago(s) that killed you were either where I couldn’t shoot them or I was busy evading a Warden coming after me.

It was all about who the Imagos aggro’ed and shot at the most. But instead, they were mostly shooting the Grace. The only character who could avoid being frozen the most would be Clayton with 90% freezing reduction.