Gears 5 :mostly only in Spanish countries it is above 30 in most played list on xlive

Gears 5
#61

It’s fine to present positive viewpoints if you genuinely enjoy this mediocrity. But if the substance of your arguments are “Quit complaining. Start playing” and “You guys are obsessed with posting negative threads” when you’re obsessed with posting in them then expect to get called out for it.

I’ve quit playing for about two months now and urged people to do the same, but not being vocal about the issues and giving TC a pat on the back for every little minor adjustment they make isn’t going to help matters any.

The fact that the playerbase is consistently dropping at an alarming rate, the plethora of bugs are still prevalent, progression saving issues are still a thing after completing 50 waves of horde, campaign still has game breaking bugs, the general gameplay mechanics are frowned upon, ranked is still broken a few months after launch and the store prices are srill ludicrous even for F2P games is not something people SHOULD be positive about.

If people aren’t vocal about this and keep praising devs for a game with all these issues then expect the gaming industry to only get worse from here on out. This isn’t just about the Gears franchise. It’s a bigger problem.

Facts are facts. This game shipped too early, wasn’t tested well, and poorly optimized. Now playing catch up is hard next to borderline impossible. This needs to serve as a reminder that gamers aren’t putting up with this kind of crap anymore. AAA games needs to be held to a higher standard so we don’t have these issues continuously occur or the future of gaming is screwed.

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#62

That’s not the substance. If you actually read my posts since launch and not just used a few recent examples to fit your narrative, you’d see I’ve offered plenty of valid reasons as to why I and several others genuinely enjoy this game. And even if I listed them again now, it wouldn’t matter. You don’t like the game and nothing will change that.

I don’t pat TC on the back (once again assumptions). I criticize them, make sure they change what needs to be changed (a few examples I listed above), then I acknowledge the change and show appreciation towards it. There’s plenty of games out there that get zero dev support post launch and are straight up left for dead (Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, WWE 2K, etc). Gears 5 is NOT one of them. So while you may not be happy with the direction of this game, you cannot disregard the effort of the developer. They don’t make every single decision (such as deadlines, movie collabs, etc), so being disgruntled even when they are actively trying to make things better isn’t going to help anyone. It’s pointless.

You don’t like the game, that’s fine. But bashing those that do or urging people to quit playing it? Yeah I don’t stand by that, sorry. And if you have zero intention of ever playing this game again regardless of what is done to it, do everyone a favor and just stop engaging in discussions about it.

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#63

I know how hard it is to develop a game. I’ve made a game myself. I am not disregarding their efforts at all, but facts are terrible decisions were made and it was poorly tested. Gameplay mechanics aside, a AAA game like this shouldn’t have went Gold with the amount of bugs it had (and still has, actually).

The reason I urge people to quit playing is because the playerbase numbers are the only thing that will bring about any change. Being vocal helps, but it only goes so far. And positive reinforcement won’t do any good either because at the end of the day, they just want your money. You may put the occasional smile on the face of a hardworking dev who isn’t charge of the big decisions, but that’s it. Change will never come from that.

Anyway, I don’t wish to have a back and forth with you all day long. I have better things to do. I’m not bashing anyone for liking the game. I’m bashing white knights. And feel free to explain why you believe you don’t fall under that category, but your posts in this thread alone will already contradict whatever you type.

At the end of the day, people are pissed because their beloved franchise is in a terrible state currently and it should have never gotten to this point to begin with. But who knows? Maybe TC will one day get it right like No Man’s Sky supposedly did.

I will continue checking the forums because I’ve been a fan since 06 and I want it to improve. The OG Gears trilogy is my favorite of all time, so excuse me for sympathizing with people who expected more from a once amazing franchise…

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#64

If you’re still going to label me as that even after this discussion, then I agree, let’s move forward because you are clearly dismissing my posts and just want to continue with this narrative.

Have a nice day. I have better things to do as well.

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#65

It works… there was a time where no devs appeared here and now TC is here and wanted to make it right… so your approach does work.

Beats me man… It’s been a miracle that the game in barebones has been able to live… a miracle man

LOL , you’re not gonna change man… LOL jajajajaj

Correct… that’s the feeling now.

#66

I admit I do play a few games of coop and even 1-2 ranked, but I give them zero $, so while I still count towards their game pass player base, they get nothing from me…

Ohh, and (as I mentioned elsewhere too) I DEFINITELY detected a change in tone & attitude recently, from an arrogant know-it-all to a little more humble "ok, maybe we made a few mistakes "

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#67

Yes I noticed that too… at the end its their job on the line and as we are the customers if we just left for dead the game… serious trouble happens to them.

As any other job for that matter my friend.

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#68

Ah yes, the warning that scrubs are approaching.

Flash grenades have ruined koth and are just a noob crutch. I’d love to see them removed from the game entirely.

Or just remove the dumb stun already and make it a visual impairment only.

Every hill push now is just a barrage of stupid flashes. The noise is annoying, the stun is annoying, the flash is annoying.

It’s even more fun when you’re stunned through walls and by flashes you
had your back to, or weren’t even facing.

Like, if you’re going to add an annoying mechanic into the game, at least make it so people can avoid it if they have the foresight to take evasive action :roll_eyes:

#69

26th in Germany isn’t good either

#70

yeah… it’s dropping…

Looks like Steam got a bit of a bump UP recently, which is nice, but xbox seems to be suffering…

#71

Can barely even find a game on Classic Quickplay. Holy sh*t, bruh’.

#72

A lot of my co-op games (yes, I play coop and really like it… in GoW4… I don’t like what Coop has become in 5 with high level bots just lancering the crap out of everyone in an instant) I get put on an EU server, from Canada… No one playing coop in north america?

#73

That’s because nobody plays it. Everyone is playing Arcade (can always find a full lobby), ranked, or custom.

I rarely play quickplay anymore. Used to use it as warmup,but have since moved to custom lobbies for that.

#74

That’s a shame. Arcade is *ss, so I’m definitely not going to play that. I like using Quickplay for warming up too, but I guess I won’t be able to anymore. Also the bots are annoying as hell in Quickplay. Even more so than Gears 4’s bots, which were already annoying, but formidable and didn’t have complete aim bots and wall hacks. I enjoy customs, but they’re not the best since everyone plays so recklessly and not how they’d normally play in Quickplay/Ranked, although Quickplay can have quite a few casuals in it. Maybe when FFA comes out I’ll be able to enjoy Custom matches a little bit more.

#75

I have ZERO interest in Arcade

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#76

After playing it in the tech test I never want to touch it again.

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#77

it’s 33rd in the US now… It’s dropping down every 24h…

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#78

It was rubbish.

Let’s not kid ourselves here.

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#79

Everyone likes different things, so it’s quite expected that some people will like X, others will hate X, some will like Y, others will hate Y, etc…

Personally I really like Versus in GoW4. I liked the movement, I liked the lancer, I liked the chainsaw, and I liked the shotgun - except the Core gnasher had too much of a range, I thought…

In Gears 5 Versus, I pretty much hate all of those elements: the movement feels like running through ankle deep water, the lancer doesnt feel good, the chainsaw revvup is broken, the shotgun’s range is fine but the 6 rounds and the reload mechanism is stupid (IMO), etc…

So yeah, from MY Versus gameplay point of view, GoW4 was awesome, G5 sucks and holds no interest beyond an occasional game with the 1-2 friends who are still even playing this game…

YMMV

#80

If Gears had ended with J or 3, or really, being honest, with 1, I wouldn’t be upset.

Given how awful 4 and 5 are, it seems TC feel the same way.

As for the merits that 4 has over 5, or 5 has over 4…strikes me that such discussion is akin to debating whether it’s better to be punched in the jewels or kicked in the jewels.

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