Gears 5 is a flop

edit 2: My niece wanted to play this, so we tried playing your broken game online. It didn’t work, but what was funny was character selection. This early teenager would rather play as Jack than Del lol. If that’s not a damning rebuke for your writing/story staff, I don’t know what is lol. End edit 2

This is feedback for TC and Xbox. Fanboys need not apply. EDIT: I will not create further posts, but I will edit this one because the delusional fanboys still don’t get it.

*This is not a hate rant (looking at you Xbox overlords). I love this franchise but the current direction of both Xbox and The Coalition will destroy it if they don’t start learning why Xbox and its 1st party titles have failed so miserably this generation.

1)Gears 5 is a flop. At its peak it managed to draw in 3 million unique logins. Unique logins are not sold copies. It has sold less than Gears of War Judgement (released on one platform), even though it was available on multiple platforms and under $1 GP promotions. Its kindergarten level problem solving. If a product costs 100’s of millions to make and 80-90% of customers only spend $1 to play it, you not only failed to recoup your production costs, but you have failed to turn a profit. And Gears 5 is a spectacular failure on this front (regardless of MTX spending, the financial gulf is massive). 40 million Xbox Ones in the wild plus the entirety of Steam/Windows 10 and its peak was 3 million log ins, not sales. That is abysmal.

2)Xbox is damaged controlling. Big time. Removing reviews, locking posts, but more than that, trying to spin this as some sort of win with Game Pass. You know how you can tell that’s completely false? Microsoft recently decided to stop sharing data/metrics on active users. Xbox does not report console sales, they do not report software sales and now they will not report active user numbers. Don’t you find it odd that out of the 3 console platforms, only one of them refuses to offer metrics/data of any kind on how well their business is doing?

3)Game Pass is not sustainable in its current form. The quality of Xbox’s 1st party lineup will suffer (even more so) and be even more aggressive with MTX’s to make up for production costs that cannot be recouped in a $10 subscription service. Read the news. The biggest player in the subscription based service game is Netflix. Not only are they starting to lose subs, but they are 8 billion dollars in debt. Putting older games or 3rd party games in Game Pass will work. “AAA” exclusives, day and date with release? No way will this work without further damaging the quality and the brands on offer. Either Xbox games will suffer a massive drop in quality or the price of the service will increase sharply. There’s no other way this ends if Microsoft want to turn a profit.

4)The solution. Your competitors (Sony and Nintendo) are showing the way forward. It’s not an argument anymore, they are outselling the Xbox platform by more than a 2-1 margin. A PS4 exclusive can sell 3 million copies in the first few days and go on to sell upwards of 10 million after that. Has anything on Xbox One even approached that level? Xbox hardware sales have nearly flat-lined. Gears used to be a system seller. Not anymore. Learn from your competition, their success speaks for itself.

Look TC, maybe your hands are tied by Microsoft. Gears 5 isn’t a horrible game, its just a horrible Gears game. Gears isn’t getting stale (as a brand), the fans are still here, you (or Microsoft) just forgot what made it great. A lot of people say its a great bargain for $1. Is that was Gears has become? A bargain bin title given away for free to promote Game Pass and MTX’s? I hope you disagree TC and will do right by fans in Gears 6.

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There’s not much else to say really, so this will be my last post. Sales numbers are starting to come out for Gears 5 and it doesn’t look good. I get that Game Pass has a lot to do with that and that you’ll try to recoup costs through gaming whales/MTX’s but that’s not a viable or sustainable model for Gears and you know it. Personally, I’m glad the reports are saying its the worst selling in history because maybe it’ll force TC and Xbox to rethink a little. Probably not.

Combine that with the new reports of Xbox console sales at an all time low, the number of people that “hit it and quit it” through Game Pass, the Xbox store removing negative reviews (lol), continually slipping in the “most played” list and it’s shaping up to be the worst performing title in the franchises history. That’s what happens when you put your politics ahead of story telling and imitate (empty open worlds, the “hero” based gameplay in online, making other modes more “accessable”) rather than innovate.

Escape is “okay” but when you have enough ammo for 2 players and throw 3 into a game, someones not going to enjoy that experience (public randos are not very team oriented FYI). Forcing people to be different characters in Horde? Beyond stupid. I could make lists of what needs to be fixed in this game.

You watered everything down to appeal to the masses and forgot you had a built in fanbase since 2006. A fanbase that knows what a Gears game is supposed to deliver. You imitated other popular online games rather than innovated new modes (Horde mode, beast mode from the OT games) even though you have that fan base mentioned earlier who are a wellspring of free ideas. You loaded the game to the brim with grind and MTX’s knowing full well how much gamers hate that crap in a “AAA” $60 game.

You guys had one of the best franchises in gaming and you’ve damned near ruined it. The sales numbers and user reviews are reflecting that. Gears is a system seller no more. And that’s on your watch, Coalition.

I hope Microsoft ends Game Pass, because if Gears 5 is representative of the AAA quality customers can expect out of Xbox’s 1st party lineup that releases on Game Pass, Microsoft just handed the next gen to PS5.

Thats my feedback. Double down on the stupid crap again in Gears 6 and MS will lose another customer to Sony.

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Gears 5 breaking records

“doesn’t look good” lol okay

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Uh huh.

Try actually using Game Pass for something besides gears. The number of masterpieces, both Triple-A and indie, available on both PC and Console are amazing.

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Game Pass is a brilliant service. Nothing in the gaming industry comes close to the value it gives, for the price.

Also, double the amount of players from the launch of 4 compared to the launch of 5, is a big jump.

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Do you really think this franchise can survive on this alone??? People need to stop with this. Why do you think Epic sold it to Microsoft in the first place???

Do you have any links to support this because Im not finding any?? Also I doubt Gamepass #'s are included.

Never gonna happen. As others have said Gamepass is a great deal with some great games on it and its only gonna get better

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Game pass introduced me to so many games that I would have never picked up on my own that are now some of my favorite games of all time. Slay the Spire, Into the Breach, Dead Cells… There are so many gems in there.

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He’s basing this on a report that Gears 5 sold fewer copies on launch than 4, he’s leaving out the fact that there were 3 million players. Considering they’re angling this game to sell Game Pass subs, Microsoft absolutely considers that a massive success.

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I know. It would be nice if they would include a link to their claims. Also with Gears being a Microsoft property its only gonna get new GP subscribers down the road as well since its never leaving GP

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Read the article not just the title. Gears 5 is breaking records for games in the Game Pass that are made by Microsoft, which own the Game Pass. So basically it’s just breaking it’s own records in a Game Pass that the game is available on. Not that everyone who downloaded the game bought the Game Pass for Gears 5.

Smart way to market Gears 5 for sure specially making special offers for $1 or $2 Game Pass options. But it does not show accurate sales numbers since it’s a service your paying for instead of just a game. So boasting about breaking records or surpassing Fortnite in “Most Played” game for less than day (Now 8th) means nothing and it’s just marketing.

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It doesn’t look good?

You’re a troll. Period.

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What records did it break?

User reviews reflect what? Most have been pretty positive, almost anywhere I go including metacritic. Steam is a bit more negative and that mostly because of the bugs and glitches but those people are still praising the game when it does work.

Also all tracking sale numbers don’t track people who bought it digital or gamepass. Considering far more people buy digital today than a few years ago can hard to say sales are bad. This does not even account for Borderlands 3 coming out in the same week which I would consider the more popular game (I personally don’t care for it) it’s even more impressive that Gears 5 is doing well.

I do however agree the game has some issues that needs to be fixed/changed and MTX and the unlocking system needs a bit of an overhaul.

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Game Pass isn’t marketing Gears 5, Gears 5 is marketing Game Pass. They’re not looking for sales, they’re looking for subs.

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Agree with you on that one.

I literally just saw a Eurogamer article saying more than 3mill played the game last weekend you belter

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You want Microsoft to end game pass?? This service is the best thing that happened to gaming in years. Get outta here… Not that rest of your post made any sense anyway.

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That might be accurate since the game just came out. But remember retaining those 3 mil is the bigger accomplishment. Talk to me about numbers after the $1 month Game Pass expires or the $2 two month offer for ultimate expires. Let’s see if those same players that got the pass to try Gears 5 for the offer have to pay $10 or more for the Ultimate game pass a month for a game they might of not like. With the issues the game had at launch and the big changes that have alienated many older GOW fans that 3 mil number is going to look very different in a month. You also have to take into account that once Borderlands 3 and COD Modern Warfare come out some of those players are going to move to those games .

Don’t get me wrong I want GOW to succeed it has been my favorite game franchise since 2006, but I don’t take those marketing articles too seriously. Gears 5 might have its problems and changed a lot from GOW 4, but I’m enjoying most of it. I’m sticking around for the long run even if it’s not the best GOW experience in my humble opinion, because that’s what us Gears fans do. We might get mad and complain , but we still play it because we love it.

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THE ONLY reason the sales are low is solely because of the GAME PASS.

pretty obvious ISNT IT?

i Mean, GEARS 5 just broke FORTNITES STREAK didnt they?? so tht right there should tell you.

Oh yeah ofc I agree but In reality it’s always been the same for most gears titles throughout the years, start strong then most players can’t hack it and leave and the same hardcore player base remains.

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