100% agree, TC killed our beloved Gears
Gears of War is not āGnashers Onlineā. Since the original they have been trying to find a way to make gnashers feel powerful, but stop them from being the only weapon people use. I think theyve done it here. The gnasher is still powerful, but itās a ā ā ā ā ā ā ā shotgun and if you just run right into an enemy like an idiot, youāre going to get wrecked. Which is how it should be. It was always a terrible idea to have the gnasher so OP no other weapons are worthwhile.
No other weapon worth while? Thatās not true at all
Even in Gears 1 there was a loaout weapon that was superior to the gnasher at long and mid ranges and could even win a CQC due to the insane tracking and hitbox of melee moves in that game.That whole āGnasher is THE O.G. competitive base weaponā is a MYTH created over time by gnasher fanatics
Tell me then, why was it so often in gears 2, 3, and a bit less in 4 that the vast majority of players only used the gnasher? Dozens upon dozens of matches of just entire teams rushing around the map with just gnashers. Itās because of this attitude and how powerful it was. Anytime something threatened the gnasher dominance people complained about it.
People did that because it was and is the most fun thing to do. If you wanted to use a rifle, not only would you be able to, but if everyone on your team was using the gnasher, it would be extremely beneficial. Watch any pro game from any gears game at all. Rifles rifles rifles every where. They dont need buffs to hell and back to be considered good. I myself always used a rifle in gow2 execution and I despise this new meta.
It was totally crazy to me back in the day, when they released GoW2 with how they altered the gnasher play. GoW2, for personal reasons, I consider the worst game sequel of all time. It ruined my favourite game haha. Admittedly though, Iām enjoying Gears 5. But thatās maybe because Iām now only a casual gears player. I donāt think I could session this how I used to.
Iād like a devs video or live stream of them going through this forum and addressing and commenting on the posts within here, no matter how critical. It would be interesting, and Iām sure weād all like to hear what they have to say. Maybe theyāll explain some aspects of complaints and make people realise it was necessary or whatever,
Maybe we could all band together to get such a request as the top post within this forum?
Just an idea.
The thingTC donāt understand is the gnasher CCQ. Is what made the multiplayer popular in the 1st place and i promise you tht as soon as another shooter comes out, most of the new players will leave and only the real fans will stay for the shotgun duels, but we wont be here either if the gnasher isnāt fun anymore
Also, why is everyone ok with rifle auto aim in ranked? This is not Overwatch FFS! 
No it isnāt. The Gnasher was the O.G weapon, it required the utmost of skill. It was heavily used in the competitive scene. Sure the games didnāt totally revolve around the shotgun. But I bet you they had the most play time throughout the first Gears. Competitive and noncompetitive.
The entire weapon damage needs reworked, then thereās still the massive issue with the Gnasher, the mechanics of it make no sense! You get kills with shots that completely miss, constant backpacking like in gears 1, shots that are hitting around cover and through walls.
This game right now is a hot mess and should of been delayed.
Iāve actually had quite a few classic gnasher strafing shotgun battles so far. Something that was sorely missing from gears 4.
Gears 4 was a ridiculous bouncing like a lunatic fest and it was just way over the top with it. I like that theyāve toned down the bouncing in 5.
You can still do a bounce or two to get the upper hand when fighting multiple enemies by yourself, but itās not the only damn thing people are using now, which is a return to classic gears play 1>3.
I know this will be an unpopular opinion for all the maniac wall bouncers from gears 4, but that was never what made gears, gears. Gears was always about skillful strafing shotgun battles.
Onto gripes⦠My problems with 5s multiplayer are:
- delay before you can fire after coming out of a roadie run has gotten me killed more times than I can count. I canāt get used to the delay and never expect to have a full second delay before I can shoot the gnasher.
- some games are lancer fests. I enjoy a good lancer battle from time to time, but when the enemy team is doing nothing but lancering and youāre getting crossed from every conceivable direction, itās very frustrating.
- footsteps are broken. You only hear the enemy when theyāre like one step away from gib range. It really needs fixing.
So whilst there are issues, I feel like this game has the potential to give us the classic gears gnasher battles (from gears 1>3, when the game wasnāt just bouncing all over the place and spinning the camera like a madman).
The strafing battles take skill and are really rewarding. The thing that is making them a bit rare right now is the new verticality to the levels, which results in you getting lancered down whilst trying to have a gnasher battle.
Ye because thats how the majority of the community CHOOSE to play gears
I do not think so. Most were just used to bounce all day and that style of gameplay favours the Gnasher yet another weapon was better in most situations imo
Canāt say anything else⦠Exactly my thoughts
Killing Gnasher gameplay sounds good for me. For me the Gnasher always ruined the multiplayer.
ā¦Which must mean Area 51 really is hiding aliens from us! 
this.
And to add to it, I feel that the original team at Epic had this grandiose idea that was the Lancer - awesome, an assault rifle with a chainsaw!! - it was their signature weapon. When the MP was released, it turns out that the community found the Gnasher to be the coolest weapon in the game for a lot of the reasons you mentioned above. I think both Epic and TC have been attempting to bring the Lancer on par with the Gnasher since GoW2, instead of refining what truly makes MP so fun - 1v1 gnasher play. That, however, is only marketable to the hardcore player base, so in order to sustain the brand, they need to have a wider, more user friendly array of weapons which naturally will decrease the effectiveness of the Gnasher.
Except hereās the thing, it isnāt sustaining the brand. Gears today may be more casual friendly but it isnāt helping them sell more copies. In fact, theyāve sold less copies of every game since Gears 3. The only reason Gears of War 4 got an immediate sequel rather than a reboot on the next gen is because it made up the loss using microtransactions.
Gears 5 isnāt going to sell copies either because itās available to millions for basically free and, at least where MP is concerned, itās a bad game. I actually donāt think Microsoft expected it to sell. Theyāre probably going to eat the cost of development to get people to subscribe to gamepass and hopefully make up for it in future earning from having more people in their ecosystem.
Long story short, casualifying the game isnāt helping them. It never has. Gear of War was one of the few big franchises where the āhardcoreā players were a big enough group to keep the games running and profitable but sadly TC has been trying their hardest to get rid of that group. This grab for microtransactions and esports money has ruined the series. Hereās a perfect example, I played a couple matches with my brother earlier and to my utter surprise I unlocked a sh*t emoji to have above my characters head. A series that I long considered to be the most satisfying and competitive shooter on the market has turned into a complete joke filled with emojis, emotes, blood sprays that are little more than ads for other microsoft games, and matches filled with bots so bad players can feel good about themselves.
Iām just tired of the bullsh*t. I hate to say it but I hope the Gears franchise ends here.
100% Agree 
Until they make changes⦠a lot of people are going to remain mad.