G5 is a downgrade compare to g4

Don’t get me wrong G4 is not perfect but it went down as a good gears game.

-Movement
-Reload system
-Rifles
-gnasher with only 6 bullets what were you thinking
-Pretty much EVERYTHING!

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Yes man… I think I’m going to buy it full price instead of paying it on game pass… truly GOW 4 has deserved my respect being honest.

Gears 5 I’m gonna continue support it by game pass, if it gets good Ill buy it full price also.

All other GOW Games ( except judgment) I have them full copies of them… all masterpieces man.

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That’s right GOW 4 only need a few changes and the game is perfect, I got the Ultimate edition copy but I’m never buying g5 lol, yeah I have all of the masterpieces(GOW2 My Fav).

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Great man … I consider myself GOW 3 to be the best… however GOW 4 with few minor updates could be up there…

Let’s wait man for the updates to see if its more your liking Gears 5 = )

And gears of war 4 was a downgrade of gears of war 3…

In some ways it is, I agree, and in some ways G5 is an upgrade.

Maybe that will change but for now it is what it is.

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I feel the same way. Gears 4 seems slower to me now, if that makes sense.

I feel like 5 has the potential to be a far better game than 4, but there’s a ways to go yet.

Some of the recent comments by Nodezero don’t inspire me with confidence though.

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I agree.

I put hundreds of hours into Gears 4 but won’t bother with Gears 5. Downgrade doesn’t begin to describe my disappointment. But, I hope some people out there like it. Enough people that MS will not kill off the series.

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I put nearly 900 hours into Gears 4. Absolutely loved that game. Played the crap out of PVP, especially private lobbies, and beat every single map on Horde with my squad, including all DLC maps. While Gears 5 isn’t quite there yet, as @o_GH0UL_o said, it has the potential to one day surpass it.

Let’s see how far they get with Operation 2. They still have a ways to go.

Man the disappointment that I feel is so great that I removed the game from xbox

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While I have been critical of GOW4 in the past, by the end it was a decent experience and I was playing it all the way until the day before GOW5 was released. Hindsight is one of those weird things I guess!

The only thing I can say for sure in GW5’s favour is that GOW5’s campaign is better than GOW4’s. Everything else pales in comparison.

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I really don’t believe that. We can claim anything has “potential” to do all sorts of things but look where we’re at so soon after release. It may reach that level for you but, if we’re being realistic, it’ll never get there for most fans. So much is already wrong. They’d have to essentially recreate the game.

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To be fair some things have more potential than others. But I do agree that GOW5’s potential to exceed or even match GOW4 is in my opinion, low.

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Well it took Gears 4 a few years to really get as good as it is. It wasn’t overnight.

It’s been about 3 months for Gears 5…as you said, “so soon”.

Operation 2 is the first massive update for the game. I’ll reserve any real judgment until then.

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Again, I don’t personally feel that’s true. Gears 4 was fine tuned a bit but it didn’t land as a disaster and didn’t require reconstructive surgery. I feel like 5 will have gone through more changes in 3 months than Gears 4 did in 2. 5 years.

I get the impression you’re defensive of 5 because you like it. That’s totally fine. Everyone has their own tastes. I’m not seeing things the way you’re laying them out though.

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Not being defensive I’m being realistic. People look back on it fondly but Gears 4 wasn’t great out of the gate. It took time. And yes I do like 5 and I see the potential in it, so I’ll give it some time as well.

Agree to disagree.

I remember Gears 4 being great out of the gate. Then they decided people were having too much fun and the unnecessary nerfs began with the bounties and turrets in horde, all before addressing the horde exploits. I do remember feeling slighted in a way that despite not exploiting in any way I was being punished by the nerfs while the exploiters still got to enjoy the game for a time. I did get this feeling again in Gears 5 when they decided that The Surge was too fun and decided to needlessly “fix” it.

This really brings out the issue of it appearing if you don’t play the game exactly like the devs want they will make it less and less appealing until you either quit or conform (I have chosen to quit). Their vision of Gears is not one where the players can have fun and this has carried into Gears 5…only considerably worse. It really feels like they are pushing to have only one “right” way to play Gears,

OP is right, nearly everything is a downgrade and I don’t agree with you that one day Gears 5 will be better than Gears 4. As long as the mentality I mentioned above remains, it will never be better. At the end of the day you can tune this and balance that to perfection but if it isn’t fun it doesn’t matter and their intended way to play the game is not fun.

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The forums would be singing a different, more positive tune if the game launched as a better Gears game than Gears 4 and not a buggy downgrade.

Hopefully they can turn the game around. Sure, Gears 4 had a rocky launch too, but atleast it felt like a genuine Gears game to me unlike Gears 5 and that’s why I played it from beginning to end with little to no complaints. I’ve complained about Gears 5 more in 3 months than I complained about Gears 4 in 3 years, and that’s no exaggeration.

Nodezero’s responses have been rather lackluster and uninspiring to me as well.

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Both sort of lacked content at launch really.

Personally at 80$ base price here… neither were worth the cost for content value at launch. From the precedent of previous games and other franchises.

But i may have “high” standards to some. Though i like to make good buiness decisions. Even when it comes to purchasing games. N i do not think either are during launch.

(Juat talkin content for dollar value. Nothing else currently for me.)