Been playing with the only friend who still plays Gears5 since launch and we are still only Level3 allies. (Everyone else are still level 1/2 at most since they’ve quit playing.)
You still play?
I support this. What gets me is level 4 to 5 is more than level 1 to 4 combined. That’s ridiculous.
Kinda weird having the ally xp requirement so insanely high that once you get a friend at lvl 5 you won’t need the xp bonus anymore.
If one thing has been proven it’s that TC should just keep things simple because if it’s not it will probably not work as intended and take 6 months to fix.
Just give a flat EXP boost to players in a party. no levels, no tiers, no BS.
better yet, remove it entirely so they can focus on important things.
Thanks for the thoughtful thread creation Ghost, and for all the feedback you’ve all provided.
Now we’ve got MPXP into a better place, Allies is our next focus for XP balancing. We haven’t got to a plan of action stage yet, but once we do, we’ll let you know. We’re definitely taking into account what’s being said here + the lofty achievements currently tied to the system.
Thank you for the update and kind words
How long does it really take to change xp levels? You could either lower the required xp, or more likely increase the xp gained per each event. Things like this don’t take weeks of deliberation. Politically correct answer but worthless for now.
Is there no one in charge now that can say raise it by “x” amount and move on? Would the game die if the achievements were made easier?
Advice: Quit trying to pace a game for three years through xp grinds. Create a game people love, and they will play it three years regardless of the grinds.
Yes and no. Friend uses my account throughout the week to play with his kid. I take it back periodically to play with him to work on certain achievements. So generally when “we” play together I usually mean “my gamertag” and him.
As such i have deleted and reinstalled this game multiple times now.
The advice is spot on!!
I actually played with @TC_Clown last night. First time since december. You can bet I was pissed lmao
I think an xp boost for allies is definitely needed.
To be honest, as far as achievements go I’m really surprised it wasn’t:
- Get an ally to level 5
And the second one should have been:
- Play a MP game with a team of 5 level 1 allies.
Its hard work to expect to keep a group together for as long as it does currently. But yes, a significant xp boost is needed.
Guess we will have to wait a few months:

You would think it takes like 15 min to change the amount needed in the code and in the achievement unlock code…
OMG… this is so disappointing.
@TC_Octus has already basically admitted that it needs to be adjusted. If they really do need “so much time” to work on a solution, why in the world can’t they just do a small change? The answer is so simple, it hurts me that they haven’t thought of it…
Just let Boost double Ally XP as well!!
What a load of crap. @TC_Octus admits it needs changing a few days ago, and now says it isn’t a priority. There are so many options that could fix the issue and wouldn’t take significant time or resources. Here are a few that would be solvable in an afternoon:
- Add a blanket 2x Honor Multiplier across all modes.
- Have Boost apply to Honor
- Cut requirements for Levels 3-5 in half
Applying any one of these three simple changes would make players happy that at least SOMETHING is being done about it. I’d like to see more maps placed in the Co-Op vs. AI playlist so the stupid grind is less abysmal and boring, but let’s start with baby steps.
LOL at that tweet.
I’m really confused about how a couple of database number changes would be so difficult or time intensive to enact?
Let me save you a lot of time so you and your team can focus on something else. Half everything thing from level 3 to level 5. You didn’t have a problem doing that for level 1 and 2 so you already know how to do it.
See how easy that “plan” is? You’re Welcome!!
Update from TC: https://twitter.com/OctusTC/status/1240324311119826944
"Had a number of people reaching out on this all of a sudden so just as an update -
We are working on some tuning changes to Gears Allies that we hope to release very soon. Our goal is to make Allies leveling feel better and make the Level 5 achievements much more reasonable."
and “Stay tuned for news from official Gears channels when we have full news on this.”
Very good news!
The achievements are worth 15 points and 10 points. I don’t think TC meant for them to be any type of significant grind so I don’t think halving the xp requirement plus doubling the amount of honor you earn would be enough.
I like the idea of changing the BFFs achievement entirely to play a game with 4 level 1 allies. Regardless, requirements need to be SIGNIFICANTLY downgraded as in at least 1/10th of what it is at now.