Feedback for Veteran Mode (on Experienced)

Gears Tactics
#1

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Proof for progression. Leveled up from 4 to 10.

1. Not guaranteeing Yellow/Legendary reward for the first Side Missions
After defeating Ukkon, the game offered me Side Missions on Veteran Mode but there were 3 missions giving 2 Purples. The last one even offered 2 Blues, which no longer interests me.

Now, I know that Veteran Missions guarantee 1 Legendary and some Modifiers also have a chance for Legendary.

But if you want to lure people to play the game longer, I don’t think offering Blues at first try is a good idea. The game should immediately grant a Veteran Mission after Ukkon Battle, and one of the 4 Side Missions should guarantee a Legendary, so people who want top-tier loots can jump right into it without any doubts.

2. No E-Holes, No Boomers
I don’t see any E-Holes and Boomers on Veteran Mode. On one hand, I like that because they cause headaches. On the other hand, the gameplay feels a bit tedious and lacks surprise. I don’t know why they don’t spawn anymore, but I would like to see them on rare occasions.

3. No Reset Tokens
People stop getting Reset Tokens on Veteran Mode. I prefer keep playing on Veteran Mode to resetting my progress, so Veteran Mode should offer Reset Tokens from time to time. Maybe offer it as a Mission Reward too.

4. Slow EXP Gain
I believe this issue corresponds to the entire game, not just on Veteran Mode; but EXP Gain doesn’t feel enough.

For Level 6 soldiers, clearing a mission grants around 10~15% EXP which is a little and makes leveling a chore, considering you cannot send the same soldiers until you receive a Veteran Mission. I can’t imagine how slow leveling up soldiers will be on 8 and 9.

Maybe slightly increase the EXP gain overall, and feature new Armors with Passive Skills that grant extra EXP on a successful mission / a kill, so players can have an option to risk underperformance for faster progression.

I’ll add more, but I believe these are the primary issues that make Veteran Mode less appealing.

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#2

In a similar vein, I am constantly getting offered armour for legendaries which is annoying as I have some many I don’t need or use, and rarely get offered the chance at getting a primary legendary.

Both of these do spawn in veteran mode, had them a few times but they are somewhat rare. Its possible to have a veteran mission modifier where boomers get 50% extra attack range too as an example.

Completely agree.

Again, completely agree. Support units, in particular, don’t get rewarded enough for their contribution. When support gives empower, lock and load and surge bonuses to other units and uses another unit to give teamwork bonus action s to themselves, I think they should get an EXP bonus whenever the skill contributes to a down or kill,

As a side note, my progress in my main (but casual difficulty) playthrough.

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#3

I played about 150 veteran missions. I got about 1 legendary side mission every 9-12 missions. I also had some white rewards. They were very rare like the blue boxes. In the end you don’t even care about epic loots anymore. Loots are very unbalanced. I got so many onyx helmets and onyx retro helmets but it took me about 130 veteran missions to get the first retro lancer part.

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#4

That really sucks…
I’m going to keep playing GT because I like the gameplay, but I hope they improve the endgame loot soon.

#5

Just to clarify, do you mean 150 main missions (which are indictated by the red symbol next to the players name), or 150 total missions post game?

#6

Also adding that on veteran main missions, if its a rescue mission the units rescued are level 1 instead of 6. I presume this is a bug.

#7

Am I missing something here? Is there a point to doing Veteran Missions other than to complete 20 of them and find Legendary Equipment for those 4 achievements?

I was really hoping that there would be an option to take the characters and equipment from one play through and use them on a subsequent one. Even if that subsequent run would requireit to be o. insane with Ironman, it would still give purpose to taking the time to accumulate the Legendary equipment.

Honestly the way Veteran Mode seems to be working, it feels like it was a last minute addition to ensure people could actually get the Legendary weapon mods needed for the achievements.

#8

It doesn’t look like there is anything further to them. Doesn’t seem as if they eventually lead to some post-end game scenario in the story or anything at least, like they’re just a way to allow you to continue playing whichever missions the game decides to throw at you with your already leveled characters rather than just starting from scratch on a new playthrough.

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#9

I played 150 side quest missions and 50 main quest missions

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#10

That is amazing, you are well ahead of me :slight_smile:

#11

more reset tokens in veteran mode would be nice.

#12

Pretty good job on the game you guys. I usually leave feedback in steam forums though hoping you guys are reading in steam.

The only thing I was going to say is keep the game going dont end it. I like how we can keep playing after the story missions. The veteran missions is where its at.

Just scanned through some comments didnt read all. Yeah I havent seen any E holes. Ive only cleared 3 missions (4 missions each) though so Im still checking it out. Ive seen the boomers 3 spawned in at once I just havent seen the E holes.

What do you guys think of being able to start over from the beginning with the new gear youve unlocked in veteran mode (experienced)?

This is actually my first Gears game Ive played btw.

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#13

I like the game so much I’m trying to get every single achievement but those Legen-dary ones really piss me off. I’ve beaten the game on Intermediate at first and started to do veteran missions.

So far I’ve done 10 veteran missions and every last of them gave me only legendary armor piece as a reward. So I assume you only get armor from veteran missions and side missions should give you legendary weapon parts to fulfill the achievements. Problem is they don’t. After beating 30 side missions I’ve never been offered a legendary item for them, only epic.

How the hell am I suppossed to get the achievements if I don’t get any reward needed? At first I thought maybe the game would be more generous on higher difficulty levels, so I beat the game on Insane (was gonna do it anyway) and after reaching the vereran mode I checked the missions. And guess what? All four side missions offered me epic loot, no legendaries for me. I need a clarification from the devs of what I’m doing wrong.