Does Gears 5 actively seek bad players to match with good players?

Gears 5
#31

You are right, the ranked system was definitely more balanced back in OP4 but, it was less satisfying than it was on OP3.

Because in previous operations you knew that if you performed like a freaking god in the game, you would get rewarded no matter whether your crappy team won or not and you would rank up.

But with this new ranked system, your performance is limited so you stop feeling rewarded after 60 elims (easy to reach if ur good) and you could no longer tell who’s the better player bcuz elims are not kills, they are assists.

And for some reason, TC had a leaderboard between masters to see who was the 1% best which was enough motivation to keep on playing after you reached masters, but they also got rid of that.

In my opinion, they traded fun for balance (and that also goes for their tuning)

#32

TDM right? Unless people have been lying to me about their gp, if you have over 160k in koth you can still find matches. I’m at 163k in TDM and in all the games I’ve found after 160k the entire lobby was in masters, or queued with someone in masters. Takes like 30-40 minutes of searching to get one of these matches. TC no comment on the issue, I know they see and read everything I’ve made two threads about it, one here one on reddit — it’s incredibly annoying.

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#33

Yes tdm
Yes 30-40 min
And yes all masters

#34

I was one win away from hitting Diamond today. I got paired with a trio, two of which were Bronze and the third was Onyx 3. I’m thinking, oh FML, here comes a loss . Pffft. We absolutely smacked the other team 2-0 and the bronzes caught 55+ bodies. The other team ended up being 1 Diamond and 3 Onyxs. Those Bronzes must’ve been way better than their ranks suggested.

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#35

I know this one bronze player (@TC_Dave) who wreaks Dimonds on the daily.

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#36

What would you say, if I told you, they probably aren’t really bronze players? Or their real accounts

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#37

Why would anyone do that though? Not that I doubt you. Just genuinely curious.

#38

Sometimes solo queue feels impossible to win or have fun

Especially when you get bad teammates on TDM.

Koth is slightly less infuriating

However, I still do enjoy most time in ranked

#39

Allow me to contribute to this thread.

The example I am posting is a reverse case. Not a low-rank player who is bad… but a diamond player who is bad.

I used to play TDM exclusively in OP5 along with my friend. His laptop broke down unexpectedly and he gave it for servicing. My friend’s laptop should be repaired by next week.

We made it to Diamond in TDM together. I don’t want to progress ranks without him so I took a break from TDM.

Decided to try climbing ranks in KOTH, just for fun.

I was playing Ranked KOTH solo this afternoon.

A player in my team was AFK in the first round. That player quit in the second round.
Of course, we lost both the rounds.

And this is the match end result :

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I tried my absolute best in this match, even though we were playing 3 vs 4.
I thought that we may have a good chance of winning because a diamond player was on my side.

Turns out I was wrong, diamond player was useless.

I ended up as top player.

The Diamond player is bottom ranking… even worse performance than the Silver player.
Just check out his caps, breaks and elims… abysmal performance.

Is this player even Diamond? I wonder…

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#40

Dang it. Was probably one of my alts…

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#41

You getting to diamond?

Highly unlikely.

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#42

No

#43

I am back with another post.

I have another reverse case here. Not a low-rank player who is bad, but a high rank (Onyx) player who is bad.

Another 0-2 loss here through solo-queue.

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I was playing as swarm. Have a look at the player at the bottom of the swarm scoreboard… an onyx player.

I ended up as top player again… even maxed out my eliminations and caps.

I am pretty sure this Onyx player doesn’t know how to play gears :

  • As you may remember, frags spawn at the exact center in Clocktower map. This player was camping for the frags when it showed 40 seconds on the cooldown timer for the weapon to spawn. Literally just sitting there, doing nothing, waiting for the frags to spawn.

  • I don’t remember seeing this guy switching to the gnasher or getting an elimination with it either.
    The reason this player had 29 eliminations because he used his lancer to shoot at the opponents while we charged in to break the ring. And as you may know… you just need to hit a single bullet on a target to get an elimination.

  • In KOTH, you may die trying to break the opponents ring. So you get shown the spectator cam to see if your teammates were successful after you in breaking the ring. This player is actually so stupid that I have seen this player charge in the ring multiple times with a lancer… and rightly getting bodied by the opponents.

The silver and gold teammates actually played very well. They displayed skill well beyond their rank.
These guys were the reason we actually gave a tough fight to our opponents.

But the Onyx player was actually useless.
How these players reach Onyx is beyond me… zero brains and skill.

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#44

I feel you comrade. I have a same issues but with FFA (~160k) and neverending queue. Here is my story - FFA - especially long queue time [PC + Steam + Europe region]

My experience with Gears ranked was yolo ride. I like Gears: i like simple gameplay of this game: it’s funny (for me). Game is not hard but decent - in my opininon. I was make very fast four masters (140 - hours in game time - 4 masters). And i like grinding FFA for example but man …

Main reason why i’m currently stop playing Gears is: queue and servers. I can accepted random kick from the game, weird hitbox, issues with keyboard and mouse, some teleports + high ping and a lot of other stuff but not 5-10 hours queue for 2 games. This is absolutly unacceptable. Literally devs don’t wanna see EU player in NA servers - it’s such a weird idea especially when EU region is dead and nobody play ranked.

I read a few topics and i asked a few peoples about PvP … and like a new player in Gears universe i feel very small and kind a choked for without a reason. Horrible servers and queue - that’s make me a little bit angry. Unfortunately. Sad when devs don’t wanna see people in ranked.

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#45

The teammate shenanigans continues.

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A beautiful three games in a row here lads. Yet more decisive 2-0 loses.

I’ve had at least one if not two legitimate Bronze players on my team because getting to Onyx requires absolutely no skill every match i’ve played thus far.
Despite these players being able to be paired with me against supposed Master level players.

Since i made this new account for this experiment i’ve yet to come any lower than top of my team in any matches i’ve played, which i’ve played about 40-ish or so now i believe.

Surely i have to run into a player who’s better than my Bronze level abilities and can trump me on the scoreboard and carry me to victory soon right?. Hint Hint Matchmaking

I’ve still only won 9 games :frowning: up to nearly being in Diamond.
Not bad for someone who’s not fond of this bot walk tuning.

I wonder if it’s possible to get to Master by almost only losing?. Must be, i think i might try.

Oh and before someone moans about stacks, i really don’t care at all. If people want to stack let them, it’s Ranked.
It’s on me playing a team based mode solo, it’s not their fault.
But as i said in the OP, this thread is an experiment to see how poor the matchmaking is for good solo players.

I shall report back with more pain when i can be bothered to play Gears 5. :+1:

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#46

Be. My. Friend. Ferret.

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#47

Oh we can be more than friends :upside_down_face:

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#48

I have to agree to the whole thread
looks like we’re somehow back to older operations matchmaking where the presence of a masters ranked players was balanced out by lower ranks
also, personal rant, why this should be the only game where one can queue as a bronze if in a masters stack?

we also said multiple times, this OP’s ranks mean zero
I’ve played with other masters in koth that were absolutely incapable of holding their own, I’ve saw masters with less than 10 eliminations after 2 full koth rounds
sure, everyone has/might have bad matches but come on, this cannot be real

solo + best player bonus + topping GP for caps/breaks/elims might get you there
not to masters but pretty close

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#49

I’ll be waiting for the request night and day <3

#50

Kyle!

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