Did koth change? (Discussion on changes Main thread)

Gears 5
#146

I’m reinstalling Gears 4 as we speak. I seriously don’t have the energy for the mess that is Gears 5 right now.

The points change on the surface is a small thing but says a lot because of the logic behind it. Those responsible for such a change are in charge of the franchise going forward and quite simply I’ve lost both trust & confidence in the decision makers from the top down.

I’m speaking with my wallet (ignoring the store) and my time (going back to Gears 4)

TC, keep playin with the core fanbase… see if I’m not the only one who jumps ship. Never thought it’d be TC themselves that made me jump

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#147

Well KoTH should work like this in my opinion:

Lets say the maximum amount of points is 100 for whateverthing

  • 1 Cap should give you 100 points

  • 1 Break should give you 100 points

  • 1 Gnasher kill 100 points

  • 1 execution 100 points

  • Lancer damage should give u the amount you do to enemy 10 points 10%, 20 points 20% etc.

  • Not aim assist on KoTH

  • Limit the amount of points you Win-Lose per match exceptional performance 400 win and terrible performance -400 points. Not more +1k or -1k. Average points per match obtained 250-300.

  • Super weapons should have 120 seconds respawn rate but they will spawn after 2 minutes, same with grenades to encourage the Skill-Celling

#148

Ummmmm…come again?

#149

I used simbolic numbers to make a representation of the weight Caps/breaks should have on KoTH after all on this mode capture the point is the more important .

So Cap + break = 1 gnasher one shot kill on terms of “stat-weight” to encourage the people to fight the point until the dead instead of camp with lancer 15 meters away

#150

i think 150 would be fine

#151

they got their kills, won their battles and let you cap in peace

#152

``300 point to cap
500 to break :innocent:
So we can calculate your points again
Must be that way
But who scared to come ring ( because if they die ; his/her ranked levels will be down). They are. = KOTHTDM players .

These players are not KOTH players

They are TDM players

In this match you are the only one who is KOTH player because of your ring caps…

Others on this list they are thinking they are KOTH players
But they are not …
Check one of my koth one you can one KOTHTDM player there :zipper_mouth_face:

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#153

thats just stupid, cos they had it perfect in Gears 4 and they had the previous point system of 100 and 300, and everyone i played was really sweaty and had great games of koth, i managed to get to diamond 3 i think, so why have they decided that isnt accurate enough? took be bloody long enough to get past Onyx 3 in KOTH and to progress further, the players aren’t being rewarded for playing the objective which is the whole point of the bloody mode lol

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#154

I’ve played Gears since the original. Played KOTH today for the first time since the points changed. It was awful. For one thing, my friends no longer play becuase of the ranking issues and now the KOTH points change. We rarely played anything but KOTH, but TC has killed KOTH. Today’s match had the MVPs of both teams with only 2 caps. The match took forever. If your objective is the same in KOTH as TDM, you are not fulfilling the objective. RIP KOTH. I’m done with Gears 5.

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#155

This thread shouldn’t exist.

No jabs at the OP but rather TC made changes that didn’t need to spark such a debate in the first place.

#156

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Here we have an example of me outplaying the other team, including the “MVP” but I ended up losing rank for my efforts?

This is all just a knee jerk reaction to fix their broken ranking system. The only people that like these changes are Gnasher players that never use the Lancer to support their team/play the objective. It’s basically allowed TDM players to copy & paste their skills into KOTH and thrive. No nuance, no methodology just ignore the objective and kill your way to top.

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#157

Just make single round 230 points and problem fixed. In case we have a leaver ok “NP” at least we have to wait 10 minutes and deal with that. On the actual KoTH u need wait 2 full rounds with a leaver or a troll

#158

That looks like an error you have most everything and you don’t have most points odd. Just finished a game and a guy with 30 eliminations didn’t have one cap or break. I called him out and he quit as we were losing. It’s just tdm guys now inflating their kd ratios. No value in a break or cap. And breaks should be worth the most because it’s basically suicide. it delays their score and gives chance for turn over an it’s worth 10 laughable points. I’m done with koth and pretty much the game itself…

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#159

Bumping this as it needs to be addressed.
Points for capture and break combined are less than a single kill. :thinking:

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#160

Because the change to eliminations is confusing. For instance you can get an elimination for 30 points of damage or an elimination for a headshot kill which is worth approx. 215 pts. The other thing is deaths also count toward rank and aren’t included on the scoreboard. To be honest they should go back to kills. I liked the change at first but now people think eliminations are equal to kills, and think stealing kills is okay, but the game still counts kills as greater than eliminations.

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#161

Kills should be shown as eliminations can easily be calculated by anybody with just adding kills and downs.

This way the information about kills is missing completely but still counts.

The 30/10 point thing is the most ridiculous thing that hapoened to the game yet :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

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#162

I totally agree. It’s not fair they changed it so much. It makes koth just so boring.

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#163

How funny ain’t it when the person getting most caps /breaks ain’t the king of the hill?

Why even lower the cap points? Why not increasing the break points? Toilet Bloodspray and the turdmark on the changes of koth!

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#164

TC, you ruined KOTH for NO reason
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Gears 4 is now the place to play ‘classic’ KOTH. As if we didnt need ANOTHER reason to go back :unamused:

…but something aint right with the servers (in Gears 4)… over half an hour to find a game sometimes during peak hours. TC, you been fiddlin with the servers/matchmakin ain’t ya?? Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest

#165

+1up to this thread. Bring 300p back to KOTH so winners are those that are capturing the ring. It is absurd to give 30p to the main goal of the mode.

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