Did koth change? (Discussion on changes Main thread)

As I player who doesnt cap much and I play lancer support more and setup this doesnt bother me in the least.
I have a bad habit of jumping out of a ring right as we cap.

I couldn’t believe this. Playing the objective is worth less than one fifth of a kill. It’s pointless going in some of the middle hills now, you may as well just sit back and lancer. Don’t go to the ring, whore the power weapons instead.

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We need a down vote for stupid ■■■ comments like these yes tone down the points ok make them useless no idiot

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TC launched a broken ■■■ mess and now this WTF do you guys eat for breakfast ? ■■■■ ? Or some other toxic substance thats making you guys ■■■■■■■■ i means seriously guys reducing the points to aomething decent would have been ok 100 for caps 50 for breaks something like that but 30/10 its pointless now might aswell just play execution…
It makes koth pointless youve killed a play list and it needs to be fixed now !!!
Im tired of you ■■■■
Absolute insanity reducing to 1/10th the original points speacially as its one of your most played play lists and now youve made it useless to go for obj … the fact you dont have points for getting attacking/defending kills near the obj makes this change to 30 and 10 points even worse

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I mean come on TC sure we get reduce the points yes make them totally worthless nooooooooooooooooooooooo its basic ppl really how can you mess up this badly

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I like the reduction but I’ve said that 30/10 is extreme. TC is not aware enough to understand these things in my opinion.

Take the redness opacity of the omen for example.

30/10 is freaking ridiculous. 150/100 would have been fine or something like that.

The change was most definitely needed but once again they show that they are not understanding the most basic of things.

Also, capping and breaking are not everything in KOTH.

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Stright JOKE!! THE MAIN POINT OF KING OF THE HILL
IS CAP AND BREAK…300/100 WAS GREAT.
IT ALL CHANGE BECAUSE SOME PLAYERS JUST FOCUS ON KILLS AND DONT CARE ABOUT THE MAIN
OBJECTIVE DEFEND THE HILL.

PLAYERS WOULD HAVE
5 CAPS
25 KILLS
10 DOWNS
AND THINK IM DOING GREAT
BUT THEN YOU HAVE A PLAYER THAT FOCUSES
EYES ON THE PRIZE!!!
20 CAPS
20 KILLS
10 DOWNS
AND OUT SHINNING PLAYERS THAT JUST FOCUS
ON KILLS.
KILLS ON KING OF THE HILL
DOESNT WIN MATCHES.

CAPTURING HILLS AND HOLDING IT TO REACH 180!!!
WHATS THE POINT HAVING 100 KILLS BUT NO
CAPS.
THAT PLAYER IS JUST WASTING TIME!!!

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Love this change. Thank you TC!

Why ? This is koth ofcource ring points will be high
Now is 30 noone coming to ring to get it or break it
Koth is like different type of TDM now
KOTH means is ring points
Only who has more ring points must have MVP !!!
Not kill points !!!
3-5 ring point with 40 kills has mvp = TDM
20 ring point with 20 kills has mvp = KOTH
İ want to play KOTH not KOTH TDM version !

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Why ? This is koth ofcource ring points will be high
Now is 30 noone coming to ring to get it or break it
Koth is like different type of TDM now
KOTH means is ring points
Only who has more ring points must have MVP !!!
Not kill points !!!
3-5 ring point with 40 kills has mvp = TDM
20 ring point with 20 kills has mvp = KOTH
İ want to play KOTH not KOTH TDM version !

Why was it needed ? I really do not get that argument.
capping and breaking are not everything in KOTH.I understand that they are not everything in the mode, but come on the name kind of gives you a clue to what you are getting into.

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But this doesn’t make sense. You still need to play the objective so you can win. It doesn’t matter what the point system is.

Lowering the points overall is good bc its a better balance of point delivery between caps, breaks, and kills. All of which are important.

I’ll admit 30/10 is a little low. Maybe they can adjust it to be higher in the future, but 300/100 was way too high.

That being said none of this impacts the objective which remains the same.

According to TC the new points system is closer to how the ranking system judges player skill with regards to kills vs caps.

How do you play the objective when there’s only one guy trying to load the ring by himself?, it takes several seconds do that and you are sitting duck there trying to get the clock running, i’ve been in matches that no one cares about the ring and I’m the only one i the damn thing, and everyone gets killed because they went hunting, and they don’t even support he guy doing it…

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I’m almost exclusively a KOTH player. I DO think that 5 people capping an empty hill and getting 300 points EACH was a little silly… This combined thing was the problem…

MAYBE give 300 points per CAPPING, divided between all the players in the ring who are capping? So if you cap by yourself, you get 300, if there are two of you, you each get 150, etc…

Also, there was no problem with breaks! You don’t get 5 people /breaking, that’s 1, maybe 2 sometimes… And breaks are quite important, breaks are highly dangerous and should be rewarded… In fact, I think 150 points would be good for a break… Divided up between players who broke (most of the time it would be 1, but sometimes I’ve seen 2).

it is stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid beyond belief that MARKING someone gets you 30 points and breaking a defended ring gets you… 10 points…

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Let"s take a small take back here. GW4 is out for more than almost 3 years now. And “we” all loved it (so much that some of us went back to play it). GOW 4 was patched since day 1 'till the last update. Coalition was aware of the problems for a long time. WHY do they want NOW to change the game so deeply ? I mean In Siver2 KOTH I see people gettting MVP without getting any cap (really).

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A revive gets you more points then a cap, this is bs. and it has impacted the game tremoudlsy, people are not going for caps and just staying back and getting kills. While I’m the only one who focuses on caps but I don’t get reward for trying to win. And the person that is just kill hunting gets mvp. The ruined KOTH especially you played KOTH bc your not the best Slayer . So for people like that they are screwed.

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lol this makes me want to vomit. In fact, I’m legitimately confused as to how he didn’t MVP this match. I would definitely argue that he was the most important player on this team - leading in elims, caps, breaks, downs (and ping :wink:)

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It was needed so people would play more for rotation and holding hills/spots rather than chasing points.

300 points to cap a few seconds? “Yay!”

30 points for a few seconds? “No, i have to rotate.”

Again, 30/10 is ridiculous.

I for one love to do a bit of everything regardless of where I am on the scoreboard. I like to play “right” in my mind.

I’m literally watching his back or his uncovered angle. He will only have to hit one shot to down the opponent.

I quick cap when needed to put pressure on the other team, but at times I stay outside to take the horde of players and slow them down even if i’m by myself.

Say on district and training grounds, i only jump down to cap those middle rings when im sure it can be capped or when we benefit from a quick cap.

No one else will support but everyone will jump to gnasher. What should i do? Support.

It’s not like i dont get caps either, im more so talking about when i get them.