To lower the amount of points earned per cap and break is ridiculous being that it is an objective mode. This is gonna drive long time koth players away from the game… I could elaborate more but to get into the amount of reasons why they shouldn’t have done it , I would be better off writing a book
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Jesus H. Christ, doth my eyes deceive me?
I see experienced players defending this change. If you’re that adamant on the kills being recognised and damn praised then go to TDM.
I see defending of the change in regards to who is rewarded MVP. Does it matter that much? It’s an objective game type. With the original points you could still clearly tell who had a big score due to caps and who was doing the most killing.
Oh, but that would require some use of the brain I suppose…I wouldn’t want anyone to hurt themselves.
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Just want to say first off, really not a fan of the changes to the amount of points for capturing and breaking hills.
It’s an objective based game type unlike all the other modes (excluding escalation), achieving kills and having a good K/D shouldn’t be the main factor, capturing and holding the hill should be. Having less of an incentive to capture and break the hill really doesn’t help with the players who just run around thinking their Rambo.
I’ve seen and played with a lot of players who don’t bother with capturing the hill, most of the time they just continuously die as their on their own adrift from the group. They don’t even bother to capture an empty hill sometimes just to go get kills. With the way the ranking system currently works for King of the Hill, it’s more beneficial to have a good K/D and aim for kills than play the objective in an objective game type. < Can’t believe i have to write that.
Killing the enemy really doesn’t contribute to winning as much as people/TC think. I’ve left players downed before as sometimes it takes longer to get up from a down than die and re-spawn, also they just re-spawn with another flashbang. Killing them before the hill has less than 10 points remaining, say 13 for example, means they can also spawn behind or very close to the next hill with spawn protection, benefiting them. Due to the awful spawns and how quickly you re-spawn, getting kills really doesn’t help you win as much as you think.
Currently capturing a hill is the equivalent to spotting somebody and then a teammate kills them, both gets you 30 points but both aren’t equal in value with regards to winning the game. Even if you halved the amount from 300 to 150 i would be fine with this but 30 is pathetic considering it is the objective.
Alternatively why not keep the amount at 300 for a capture and just split the amount by how many people are capturing. For example, two people capture the hill so the amount of points is halved netting 150 for each player, three players capture the hill and net 100 points for each player, same principle goes for breaks.
The whole ranking system needs to be revised for King of the Hill, having a high K/D and overall kills is fine in other game modes as killing your opponent means you win the game, but for King of the Hill it shouldn’t be as important.
As i said i’m not a fan of these changes but i don’t really mind that much, just thought i’d give my two cents.
I still lose ranking points regardless of the changes as i’m still MVP or top of my teams leaderboard by a good mile while being paired with players who can barely work out how to get out of spawn literally every game i play.
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Nice…
Dont need anything else… just… nice… 
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TL;DR plz
I like it but 30/10 is definitely too low. I always argued for a reduction but this is extreme.
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If you want a reduction try 200. Where the hell does 30 come from. LOL. How bout 98 for the amount of damage I do before I’m one shotted. Who said 30? And what is this number based on since they’re so into math and calculations and seeing what stats represent and making changes based off of it…
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Reduction dumb but lukewarm.
Ranking system dumb and KOTH needs a different one for it.
They are trying to force people to play other mods. Koth is most played mods in year’s…
Well said. It doesn’t help that they have this pathetic “Eliminations” system instead of usual kills, where you can almost mark people and get the damn “elimination”.
(EDIT: @o_F_3_R_R_3_T_o)
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What’s the worst that will happen? That people won’t try to cap the hills? Nobody does anyway, in my experience.
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Drop this game for 2 weeks, and this is what happens.
TC you guys know how to do one thing well. **ck this game up even harder.
Instead of fixing your broken rank system, you nerf KOTH points. GENIUS.
Gave me another reason to stop playing, other then the CESSPOOL of SA/EU players in NA regions.
Hey guys another bright idea, loosen up the hit detection even more. Mexican flags should round up damage to 100%! THIS SHOULD BE A TYPE OF BOOST ONLY 100 IRON/PESOS. WIN WIN.
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100% agree with this change, was so tired of bums getting 25 caps and 2 kills when I had to get 50+ kills and fight a 3v1 next to the kill when some trash can was standing there with a gnasher in their hand not crossing or helping with the fight.
People that play like that shouldn’t get 6000 points for 20 caps.
The way to play an objective game type is to kill other team, capture the hill and spread out and defend the hill. Not break, cap, break, cap, break, cap…, etc… this hopefully will change the way people play and force teamwork so people help each other and not just try to get as many caps as possible and think they are doing something when they are dead half the match rushing in head down to try to cap/break
The new point system will show who truly is putting in work all around not just calling hills.
I’m a big koth player and always play the objective and agree with the change
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Yeah it’s complete bs, this is objective based game and for actually playing the objectives you don’t get rewarded , it’s like they are supporting just kills . I understand kills matter but why would you take the value out of caping, breaking ? To give the ones who don’t play the game mode to a way to get mvp? I really don’t understand , why not make it 125 for cap, and 75 for break
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How many points did you give the other team by killing on the outside of the hill then maybe decide to grab the hill.
Yes. They should get those points. There’s a game mode for you…tdm execution. Go play them. It’s an objective game mode. To win you grab the hill. Kills are only to secure the ring. Securing the ring goes above all else in order to win. Get out of koth. Don’t ruin this game mode for people who enjoy a great objective oriented game.
You can get your type of play in the other modes. Leave the objective game mode for ppl who want to play an objective. Can’t see why some very minor ppl can’t understand that.
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The change sucks but at this point I expect nothin less from TC.
Like many have said, a slight point reduction wouldn’t have been an issue but 10 for a break? Ef it, why not just 5 or none at all?? 
And of ALLL the issues goin on with the game, point tinkerin with KOTH… yeh THATS what needed to be attended to 
Side note - Maybe TC make some of these pointless changes (pun intended) so that we as a community go at each other and take the focus off them? Think about it lol
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Just played a few games of koth and it was so boring.
Rounds lasting an average of 12 mins, even when the other team scored less than fifty in the ring. The first game had the whole lobby with 80-100 elims and the ring being left uncapped for most of its duration.
I am not currently a fan of the effects these changes are having.
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Personally I’m not a fan of escalation but for me if you want to fix that game fix that game. Don’t change koth. The only thing in common with the two modes is the ring. Make escalation points lower and leave koth. You want to prevent randoms from escalation change the that mode. Personally it’s too long and when one person leaves games done u can’t win. Is escalation a mlg thing? Personally I don’t know how it’s still being played. Should have died with gears 4. Also could have changed whoo gets to place the weapons etc if that’s the reason to change koth…you shouldn’t even care about kd ration in koth or play if you care about that stuff
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I’m not surprised by Microsoft ruining one of my top three games of all time. Decisions like this is only probably the future of Xbox not to mention all the bad choices they made for the original Xbox One. Millions of loyal fans got burned buying the Microsoft product at launch versus Sony.
I got Gears 5 with game pass ultimate and now i will continue to wait a while (for obvious reasons) before i ever buy Xbox stuff early again. I really enjoyed Gears 5 king of the hill the way it was before. I’ve been playing since like 4 days early and now it’s a different game out of nowhere. Im like 2 ranks from finishing the tour of duty. In my friends list i’m like third for like most caps per minute or something like that. I got guys that played the hill since like annex in Gears 2.
Gears 5 promised more new modes; maybe Gears will bring back annex with 300 points for a cap and added execution rules plus when every ring drop below like 15 the next hill become active making 2 rings active until the older ring is finished, removing the ring time out like in Gears 2 annex. But knowing Microsoft now days they will do the opposite.
I might be moving back to my Ps4 pro daily. I was a Xbox 360 loyalist in a way. Ps3 seemed like a joke to me back then, my brother loved his though. I played Gears 2 & 3 almost everyday back then until they reset my rank in Gears 3 and they also erased my beta cole skin, etc. I never knew why. I know why i will be fading away this gen though.
I heard people say Xbox listen to fans, so here I am asking for something before it’s too late 
. All i ask for is at least one new mode with unlimited respawns or at the very least make team death match with unlimited respawns and perks like uav for campers and attack chopper or bosses from horde that attack the other team. Imagine leeches and stuff distracting you in a middle of a 1v1 shotgun battle with another real player. Im sure you guys had to think of this stuff already. And don’t bring back all them old maps and do give Gears judgment a map playlist of its own for Gears 5.
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