50/100 since breaks are the hard part 
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Same with escalation.
Yeah, i thought about that after I wrote my comment. That would be just fine.
I have a feeling that they will increase from 30/10 soon.
Dear TC,
I have some ideas for KOTH that I’d like to submit for consideration. Personally, I think the “hill” part of King of the Hill is way over-emphasized, and I’d prefer the mode to be more about brainless kill/down whoring and ignoring the objective. To that end, would it be possible to set the points earned for a cap to zero, or perhaps even some negative number? Better yet, maybe instead of a point penalty, whenever someone caps the hill you could kick them from the match, remove all the iron in their account, and delete Gears 5 from their Xbox. I think these will be productive changes that will move KOTH in the direction everyone wants it.
Sincerely,
Mark
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I wondered what today’s update was about.
Can’t say I’m happy about this, why change points that have been the same since koth has been in gears?
Just gonna turn the mode into a limitless tdm
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No it hss not… the point value for cappin n breakin has changed before… what u are sayin is false…
It was 300 in 3, judgement, ue and 4. Can’t remember earlier than that
Of course I could be remembering wrong. But since you offered no alternative I’ll go with it for now
Talk about shooting themselves in the foot even more so. Ruining the best game mode in the game and making Gears 5 more worthless than it already was. Wow. TC are fools of the highest calibre.
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Ya… ok… dont do any research urself… it was like 150 for a cap a long time ago… n like 50 for a break or 100 or something. then epic bumped it to 300 a cap n 150 a break after “community feedback” to encourage players to play the objectives more… did u start with 3? If so… u prob missed it… think it was 2 thag did this
Why would I do research myself? You were the one who challenged without offering any constuctive opposition. If I’m wrong then I’m wrong. Won’t matter to me either way
I didn’t start with 3, but as I said I don’t remember earlier than that.
Since this has the makings of becoming an internet slanging match I’ll say goodbye here.
Happy hunting 
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Nit really i was just curious if u started with 3… i totally understand not remembering… i dont member when it was implemented… i didnt challenge u… said u were wrong…
Either a, im am misremembering… or b… im a liar… n its not either option. (O god i hope its not me misremembering lmao)
Both of us should be checkin to prove our posts… not me or just u…
Edit: n i am researchin to ensure… my phone is being a butt though!!! Lmao
Why make taking the objective worth less points in an objective game mode?!
KOTH has always been bad about players not playing the objective. Now they are never gonna play the objective.
Wouldn’t it have made more sense to decrease the kill/downs points…just saying but this is Gears 5 so I’m not shocked.
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Wont this just entice kill stealing and focus on kills like its team deathmatch?
Reading through some comments I’m getting the impression that caps/breaks don’t play A large part in your ranking outcome, if thats the case then its a bit stupid.
I suppose i will just wait and see how this plays out
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They said on stream that it will reflect the ranking system better.
However I do think if someone caps the ring they should get points for how long it stays capped. Say 3 points per 1 sec or something.
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Wait. What in the holy hell? This is a team game! Getting rewarded for capping the hill is extremely important. This is single handedly the dumbest move ever. It’s an objective game type! I can’t even with this company any more. A 9yr old would be able to tell you the importance of getting points in an objective game type and rewarding the person playing the objective. This is lazy.
Adjust the way the ranking is in koth rather than entice players to ignore the objective. TDM is where this type of play should exist. The ranking system should revolve around the objective in each game type and a little around individual skill. If you can’t get that right there’s no reason for a rank on that game mode.
Rank revolves around player skill on that particular game mode. If it’s kills for every game mode YOU MIND AS WELL just have one rank for all the modes. This is so idiotic.
Someone explain how dumb this is to TC. I don’t even know how they can call themselves game developers at this point. I rlly don’t. You’ve now ruined king of the hill. Good job guys.
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I feel ill.
I liked this mode as you could rack up the points and if you had a long game then you had a nice little chunk of XP for your efforts. I’m unsure if this means less XP but bummer if it does.
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Refer to my post above, but seriously this is the straw for me. Like what even is this… I’m going to halo mcc I guess rather than play this. THANK the lord for gamepass and I didn’t spend 60 dollars. This company is unbelievably incompetent and just flat out demonstrating the worst negligence I’ve ever seen.
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I am not sure if that is the right move here. Rankings should always be specific to the mode. KOTH is objective based. If I have a guy playing TDM in KOTH that’s a problem. I dont play KOTH much I am a TDM player but when I play KOTH I go for caps and breaks. My K/D is ■■■■ as a result but it usually results in a win. This is just going to exacerbate a scenario I had encountered in my brief time in KOTH to obtain a medal for stars. Guy was talking ■■■■ about how we lost and how bad we were and how he carried the team. Granted, not the best players that game but that guy had 0 caps and was playing it like TDM. So I said to him you should have tried capping some points that’s why we lost. I was the idiot getting steam rolled at the capture points because I was the only one engaging thier entire team at the point trying to cap it. Sometimes successful but when its 1 vs 5 at a point you can imagine the likely outcome most times. So he looks at the leader board and calls me a scrub and how far I am down on the list. Yet I lead the team in caps / breaks but it wasnt enough to make a difference.
With that said, no one is going to cap points now as there is no reason as people feel being top of the board proves skill. I have no problem being dead last as long as my support is influencing a win scenario but most players are so focused on where they are on the score board they will neglect the objective. This is going to spiral out of control because the risk / reward of capping has been neutered. This is ultimately a bad design choice and I feel that they will revert in the future after they see it’s not working. I sometimes question where thier heads are at because this should be an obvious issue.
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Let me.just say… as someone who plays koth only ranked… im not gunna speak for what people will do…
@TheCoalitionstudious
let me tell u what i am goin to do.
I am goin to lancer, and gnasher not like normal and play Koth like its social slayer in h3… why? Cause i have no reason to cap hill currently by tge sounds of it now in this thread. No, i am now gunna lancer, gnasher all the time, less i have power weapon etc. N just go for kills. Why punish myself tryin to cap rings to win rounds or games for 30 pts, when we have two very bad random slayers 90% of the time. (Slayers r needed inthe right situations i know, but i mean usually they are always trash n never do anything but slay)
Why should i punish myself getting 30 pts or whatever, when i can go for 175-225 for a kill depending on condition.
If i get a decent team, ill play normal… but as a solo q player usually, im assuming… a lot of social slayer is gunna be happening on my end…
Coalition i am honestly not trying to be toxic. I am being rational imo. If u dont think this change has negative effects on koth… ur just wrong
I could go into a massive essay on why I dont wanna cap “now”… but its waay too much to type on my phone… its just not worth the time now in short to cap. If points affect rank, then kills is the fastest way to get point etc cause we have no idea how ranks work etc… its a large mess…
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You act like people played the objective before the change
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