Is there text to come with it, to follow through?
The reader imitates these background noise or are you referring to listening to something else in background? Or is this sound effects played?
I’m grinding medals too. I don’t mind.
No text unfortunately.
The reader makes pew pew noises when the Swarm open fire while shouting “O O M A N”.
For real? Can’t tell if serious. But I genuinely want to know for research purpose.
Dude I wish.
yeah but he has to be that guy all the time? it kinda gets over played… he came in with the big meck suit at the end of gears 5 and the motorycle kill?..
kinda getting cheesy no?? i really like how he mellowed out as a person in gears 3 with the whole getting to know him as a human.
Doesn’t this mean that every main character was also relegated to a stereotype? Because–they were.
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On a surface level, at first glance, every Gears character looks like a stereotype. Very simple.
And as fans love to point out in regards to their favorite characters… Gears characters are not as simple as they appear. They express hopes, fears, dreams, regrets, and even doubt.
They’re actually archetypes, which is why Gears characters are so beloved, while most of their competitors from 2006-2012 are forgotten. Most memorable characters are defined archetypically, and appear to fulfill a stereotype (or create one, such as Gandalf creating the stereotypical wizard). But through their dialogue and actions, good characters reveal themselves to be deeper and more complex.
You forget that Gears 3 had the Thrashball flashback, which is a love-it-or-hate-it thing. I loved it, even though it was cheesy, because it showed what happens when Cole reaches the end of his rope. He blazes bright, and goes for the win even at personal risk. When he succeeded, he was reinvigorated.
In Gears 5, the motorcycle kill was Cole fulfilling his role. He makes the big plays that would get anyone else killed, lands his shot, and triumphs.
Then he tried to stop the Kraken with his mega-mech. And it didn’t work. He was too slow to eject from his mech (age catching up with him, and he was too confident). So he suffered a broken leg, internal injuries, and perhaps even a concussion. Not cheesy at all. It was a great use of the mega-mech, with a believable result.
And more importantly, it showed that mega-mechs aren’t powerful enough to win the war.
(if you think he couldn’t possibly survive, allow me to tell you about my great-great-uncle; his truck was hit by a train, he was ejected fifty feet in the air, and he survived unhurt)
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I mean if you only play the games I can see it being over the top but if you read the books its only really during battle that hes like this
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I think I remember something about Cole being just as, if not more scared than other Gears in combat. But from his years in Thrashball he knows that if he acts tough it’ll help his fellow teammates fight better.
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Sure. But the loudmouth showboat being Cole was a racial stereotype.
Not necessarily, because it may have been shown earlier. At least, I remember there being at least one destroyed megamech as part of the backdrop in Settlement 2 near the construction hub. So it’s not like it takes a giant creature to destroy one.
The books are typically written well after a game is finished & is more flesh things out.
Would I say Lester plays up a stereotype? Yes. I guess that was supposed to be “gotcha” question because maybe you’re assuming I’m white. I would describe how Lester & people like him behave as that of a sycophant at worst & at the very least simply performing within the narrow confines of the society he has grown up in allows.
The unfortunate reality is things like this are pervasive because it is so embedded in the foundations of the society in which we live & when it comes to things that affect marginalized groups, said groups are likely to be more keenly aware of the subtleties because we live it & there is a long documented history of it for us.
I won’t go much further because this is ultimately a gears forum & the realities that I’m talking about are well documented. So if you don’t see it, it’s best to just drop it. I enjoy gears as much as anyone but I’m also not blind to it’s shortcomings.
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This guy gets it. No one is in here being an sjw trying to get Cole removed from the games. He is just a relic of the past in many 70s, 80s and 90s pieces of media when there is one black guy he had to be over the top which leads people to this being there only experience because not everyone has a Del as their bff. In 2006 it was still a thing but it’s just odd to see in 2020. This is why we have Del and before that Jace. These could be real people, Cole is lazy writing and if Dom walked around calling everyone vato in a muscle tee I would really question the original gears creators but he is a just a regular guy who just happens to be Latino, like many people of color are trying to be.
Okay, you lose me because Cole isn’t going around doing this either. I dont see him walking around saying the “N-Word” or whatever. Hes just a guy that’s filled with hype. I don’t see how you can even compare this.
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Because in the context of media portrayal of black characters in 2006 and earlier, Cole is a stereotype. We’re not saying he’s a bad character, just a very 2-dimensional one.
It’s possible that Epic Games simply didn’t understand what they were doing with Cole. We’re not saying there was malicious intent. But Cliff completely dodged the discussion by laying the full responsibility for the character at the voice actor’s feet:
And Cole hasn’t changed much for the last 14 years. It’s possible that once Microsoft handed the franchise over, The Coalition wants to develop their own characters so they haven’t given Cole any nuance because he’s not a focus for them. Their focus is on Kait, Del, and JD.
But a lot of the side characters are the same way. Why is everyone just singling out Cole for this? And people aren’t giving his character the credit it deserves because he showed more of his emotions and another side of him in one chapter than 80% of the other side characters. I get it took until the 3rd game but it’s a hell of a lot more than what most get. We have to also remember that this franchise doesn’t revolve around Cole. It’s not called “Agustus Cole Simulator”. I’d be happy to get ANYTHING out of Dizzy at this point in the games but I get hes not the central focus of the plot. It’s just the way things are.
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Because this thread is about Cole’s dialogue
You mentioned above he was a 2 dimensional character and I feel that’s wrong.
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That’s fine