Change the unlock requirements for new characters

Gears 5
#66

The difference is Gears 3 already came with a fair amount of characters at launch (that didn’t require grind) and Prescott is a prestigious character, so it made sense he took time to unlock. It is not comparable to 4 characters who should’ve been there at launch, who can’t be earned simultaneously (this is a big issue), and require hours of playing game modes that are quite honestly not that enjoyable.

And I’m sure there were plenty of people who weren’t happy with what it took to unlock Prescott, but it can be forgiven because Gears 3 was fun and has plenty to work towards already. I think a big part of the issue for a lot of people in this thread is that they’re just not happy with Gears 5 in its current state, and this is just another reason added to the long list of grievances. This whole game has just been a shitshow from the very beginning, and with the amount of money and people behind it, there’s really no excuse for things to be this way.

Nobody in this thread (except one) is saying they want the characters for free.

People generally WANT to earn their characters. I liked the requirements to get Prescott because having it shows the work I put in, and since it took awhile to get, less people had it which made it feel cool to have. But there’s nothing cool or fun about ‘earning’ these characters. Anyone can just buy them so having them doesn’t mean anything. The cut and paste challenges they’ve assigned to each one aren’t fun, unique, or interesting. It’s just boring. If TC had even just made the challenges like I don’t know, “Get 500 Eliminations”, and things of that nature, so that people could work towards them in ANY game mode they want, I would not be posting right now.

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#67

Juat to add that these 4 new characters aren’t linked to the TOD so won’t expire when this Operation is over. They will be up forever so new players can do it at any point.

It’s only rewards in the actual TOD tab that are time limited.

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#68

To be honest I’m happy with any of it apart from the fact that I’m having to play game modes I don’t want.

I’ve spent all morning unlocking COG guy and can’t really say I’ve enjoyed it like I would have playing versus. I think you need to give people the choice of which game mode they grind for the rewards/unlocks

#69

TC greed is just at another level with Gears 5, it was bad with 4 but man. The requirements for the new characters are outrageous . They are made that way on purpose, so people can spend real money for them. This is a disgrace! I can’t believe what games have become in 2019. Multiplayer is broken af, the damage system is broken af, there are literally 4 maps on rotation and you introduce skins that I have grind for weeks to get or spend real money…what a joke TC.
I am not spending money and I never will on your micro transactions greedy ■■■■■■■■.
Through gameplay we barely earn anything to unlock any cosmetics without spending real money, that is not a coincidence.
Guys, if you can, do not spend your hard earned money on this ■■■■. Show them with your wallets, that this is unacceptable.

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#70

I’m usually against TC in most post. But I’m on the fence on this one.

On one hand each character is earnable through playing, on the other hand they allow people to just buy them.

I don’t think they are that bad as being “earnable” but I do think they did it wrong.

Now I will say the requirements now are stupid, for each character it should be a challenge relatable to the character, for example:

COG Gear, they are known as support characters, which is what their main function in horde and escape is, they should have had his unlock something like;:

  • Revive 100 teammates
  • Get 200 Assist

They shouldn’t be charging people for characters, while a character is considered a cosmetic in most games, it certainly is not in this game due to each characters unique abilities to horde and escape, so yes people have a right to be angry that they are in fact trying to charge the fans for gameplay when they promised it would just be cosmetics. Which was and is a bold face lie.

Pecone I did not mean to tag you as reply I hit the wrong option lol.

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#71

As a player since Gears 1, I have to… somewhat agree, but also disagree.

I think TC is in the worst spot rn, just because they don’t know what kind of player they’re trying to cater to now, because people are actually playing Horde and Escape instead of only Versus. I myself don’t care to play Versus much anymore, so getting challenges that say “complete 50 rounds in Versus” to unlock a DeeBee I can’t even use in horde sounds pretty lame, but the damage isn’t as bad for ME as it is to you, because I at least have the PvAI feature, whereas you have the ■■■■■■ grind either way lol

#72

I don’t think it’s even a solvable problem, and I don’t think any solution would satisfy everyone. Some portions of the community want X, and another portion wants Y.

Basically TC just can’t please everyone. When we had RNG lootboxes, we demanded gameplay unlockable material. When we got gameplay unlockable material, we moan that it’s too hard / repetitive / grindy.

Part of me thinks that the GOW community are just really insufferable entitled brats.

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#73

I think it’s just a community made up for various types of players coming from various types of games. If TC can’t cater to us all and make EVERYONE happy, I’m afraid we’re going to lose a lot of people before this over, with one side being dominant in the end lol.

Whatever happens, I’m okay with death knowing there’s still ONE Carmine alive lmao.

#74

Why shouldn’t he have a sense of accomplishment if he earned the character as opposed to buying it? Not really following your train of thought here. Why would him earning the content as opposed to buying it make EA love him?

#75

Good point. I don’t mind escape but it’s kinda making people do speed runs. I played last night and one guy just rant to the end, I assume just to get it done but he left us outnumbered and downed

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#76

Exactly. It will also ruin it for players that do like it, because grinders are forced there for a challenge, not because they want to be there. TC really needs to rethink this one imo.

#77

So let me get this straight. You think having only the option to buy them is better than having the option to earn or buy? What kind of logic is that? I loved Gears of War 3, but there were plenty of characters locked behind a paywall in that game too. I personally don’t think the challenges to unlock characters in Gears 5 is grindy. There were some characters in G3 that were way grindier than what TC is asking us to do. The only issues I have with the unlock system in G5 is that you can only work on 1 at a time. Right now I think gears 5 has way more glaring issues than the unlock system.

#78

No it should be only unlockable and not for purchase, it does not feel rewarding. Gears 3 had some characters through season pass, but it was nut a lot, not like even 10 characters. What the season pass was worth back then is now 5 character skins. Gears 3 also had 30 + characters unlockable at launch and no you can also not pay for that.

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#79

How did you reach the Assist one? I nearly never get assists. Seems always to count as kill or Elim without single assist. I made hundreds of elims / kills but stuck at 34 assists right now.

I get around 1-2 assists per game MAX. Many times not even one single assist.

#80

The difference is: the Chars in Gears 3 hat totally DIFFERENT bars to raise to get them. Prescott was super hard if I remember right. But others had been way easier. And it wasn’t the same nonsense and super boring way to earn them via repetitive “challenges” that are none but time consuming lame nonsense.

And back than, if someone really had Prescott, you def RECOGNIZED that with a bit of respect.

I really don’t see that in gears 5. Everyone will think: either that dude paid 5 bucks or he did some lame 5x10 waves etc.

It’s def. by far not the same.

PS: Still I agree that there are WAY more important tasks to solve then the Char unlock system :wink:

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#81

You see but you’re wrong. You can’t unlock things by simply playing. That is a false statement. I can play 300 hours of multiplayer between now and next week but guess what. I won’t have unlocked any chatacter because the game forces me to play modes that are broken, suck and quite frankly unenjoyable.

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#82

I would add in addition to toning down requirements. Lower the cost as you achieve requirements. Meaning right now you either grind or pay 500 iron. Well there are 5 requirements after you create the card. So if you earn a requirement the cost should lower by 100 iron.

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#83

I got the assist one. Play one something harder than beginner where it’s harder to kill an enemy. If you do the Terminator Horde challenge you’re going to get way more than 1 or 2 assists.

#84

Ah okay, I meant versus. So it’s better play Horde then. I see. I’ll try that. Thanks.

#85

Well the terminator Horde is 20 rounds and is super easy. And it also counts toward the win 5 games for Horde and wind a game with each of the 6 main characters( assuming you play with each character ), Even on beginner level you should get at least 15 assists per game