U guys said listen to the community , but idk where u guys get playing w randoms is good. That is a joke!! Some dont listen, some r stupid and some they think they r pro players and die 20 times running w the shotgun from spawn. The movement sucks and the weapons tuning more. Saw your steam talking about strategies and bla bla bla. I tell u Whts the problem the game got to a point is fking boring no new game modes and nothing actually. The game after 2 yrs if not mistaken still looks in beta mode same happen with gears 4. Made the game for 5v5 now to 4, because u guys think is better, then put tdm only for team off 2 really?? So I get online to play w randoms?? Where the f ck u guys thought that was good idea. In the end game keep crashing u lose points nothing happens. The characters same shi!t just chrome, use black steel again mix bought. Have some real ideas. I apologize just frustrated w the game I love because the content creator’s looks the have no idea where they going w the game.
I understand your frustrations over a game you are so passionate about and love and just want to be able to play and enjoy to have more of that taken away and have it feel like the game is going down a bad path…
They listen somewhat, I know based off some of what I hear in the streams because they refer to stuff. We’ve seen time and time again well known members of the community with backing that have asked for many changes to be brought to gears like 4v4 or people complaining about stacks and like verbatim they happen despite if it’s good for the game or majority agrees with it and wants it.
But kinda stops there, because they also are unaware or plain don’t understand lot that is brought up in streams, and this has been proven again and again. I understand they can’t know everything and urge people to bring it up for discussion or submit a ticket, but how can they know something one stream and not the next or when you have known issues be told to them for so long by so many with no word back or more misunderstandings.
But also, when you have so many people giving them feedback and they have all these tools to overlook that and you know that you see these things discussed only to come as a shock in stream or get totally misunderstood what it is or be told that majority of people like it when you just know there’s no way that can be based off what you see and the fact we don’t have an in game way to poll or survey people.
Like cmon not everyone’s gonna play their beta playlist or put their opinion in here, especially when such a huge portion of their fan base is Latino/Hispanic and they have no support for them in the forums… says a lot…
TC has openly said and gone through changes in the past even when there’s been overwhelmingly positive feedback. Yet they still reverted or made changes in those cases, because of what they want or think is good, and not what majority want and is good for gears long term.
They know people will play the game because it’s gears and they are willing to adapt or don’t really play much else and will put up with it. They say majority, but I think they have data that doesn’t include or look at majority of day to day players, and where they talk about these changes.
I think they have skewed data frankly considering the outrage they have now for this new tuning and the lack of outrage with the last tuning, same can be said when they initially were gonna remove tdm from ranked then brought it back 4v4 and 2 stacks only.
Maybe, for a new game or balanced game these changes would be good and more accepted but this is gears of war, and even then I’m sure majority of people wouldn’t want changes like the 5v5 to 4v4, less modes that aren’t even present in social, smaller stacks meaning not being able to play team modes with friends or actual team (cause let’s face it majority randoms don’t care about the team or listen)
… and endless beta testing in the form of developer playlist and tuning changes… tuning and movement that makes the game feel slow, clunky, unresponsive, and creates boring uninspired gameplay and so on…
They’ve made so many improvements even from 4 and were dealing with a lot of present problems not just particular to gears 5 and I think they’ve done a great job in lots of cases.
However, there is a blatant pattern that when they do something good something bad has to come with it that tends to tarnish it, even when that change is sudden or not necessary or asked for.
I remember a time we had really good movement, new maps, modes, 5v5 with stacks, and new skins for weapons and new characters or skins for existing ones.
All they had to do was keep adding to the maps, and skins and maybe modes.
I agree movement is way too slow and delayed, yes we can do what we could before on it, but it’s so slow and boring and not as effective calls for boring gameplay it’s actually more effective to point and shoot now or bot walk, feels limiting and unresponsive.
With the weapon tuning it feels even slower and not as satisfying, the boom and hammer burst nerfed so much, they try to make what’s supposed to be a pick up weapon feel like a lancer when it’s a load out, and they were designed to be different. Boom is so weak now it’s laughable.
They’ve brought many amazing skins and new maps and characters we didn’t get in 4 (finally) but does feel uninspired at times, or lackluster, they’ve gotten much better at it though, but I understand where you’re coming from…
Could try putting a ticket with region and time you get disconnected but honestly it just happens now sometimes out of nowhere it sucks especially when you can’t rejoin and lose your points and have to play quick play cause ban. I know it’s been happening more to people since this tuning so if it’s happening a lot maybe put a ticket in.
Honestly I have it uninstalled at the moment cause it’s not enjoyable to play anymore and just went to gears 4 hoping they make some changes so I can come back.
Bringing this from the Big Tuning Thread from when I watched the last developer streams, with few added comments, as I said lot there I feel applies here. You should go there if you haven’t already, think you’d find some good discussion there.
“There were so many asking for stacks in tdm. Dana answered a question over whether tdm would be getting stacks back and responded that they will get around to it when and if it comes around. Theyve said before that they were set with their decision so I really doubt the time will come around. That the biggest problem was spawn camping and a coordinated force and was to help mitigate that.
Even though in king of the hill we have the same problems as tdm in the form of anchoring, which you can switch spawns and spawn camp and farm people from and dominate a ring by doing… not sure if TC is aware of this but I know it was a thing in 4 too not just 5.
Someone mentioned if we should call it duo death match instead of team death match and Dana said he gets that but should still be working as team. I don’t think he understand that randoms like to go off and do whatever they want Or feel entitled to weapons when you fight for them or eat up all the lives and if you try to work together they just want to do the opposite even more.
Me and @GuiltyCrisis who was in top 5 tdm now top 20 even though he hasn’t played tdm in months can attest having seen this firsthand time and time again when you want to use team chat to communicate.
We just want to be able to play with our friends in death match but also stacking helps avoid this bad experience of getting people that don’t want to work together to kill the other team more so than they do us.
You can go off in team death match get mvp, or be top player on your team, be in the 20’s 30’s even more in kills with less than 5 or 10 deaths, and get a feeder or two that on purpose don’t want to work together and die more than 20 times with few actual kills or go even and make the game happen too quickly to counter them continuously rushing in and not working as team…
If they heard the data and was talked about very loudly like they said then why was a fan favorite mode gonna be removed from ranked because it’s causal and not competitive but at same time is even more when we have stacks.
Spawn camping is only one of the things that killed tdm when you get the same thing and worse in king of the hill with anchoring but they kept that 5v5 for while and you can still stack in it. Feel like I have to mention, In stream they play 5v5 but we play 4v4 in game.
The changes to tdm in my opinion made the problems worse and made it feel like a casual mode, being forced to play solo or with one other person again (which i used to play solo quite a bit for a good portion of this game when I wasn’t playing with friends) and going off only to get feeding team mates or those that don’t want to work together as team just isn’t it, so I stopped playing because wasn’t enjoyable anymore and didn’t feel like the same good competitive game mode I loved.
Feel like their problem is with fixing matchmaking, they need to make it so solos go against solo or at least have even party on both sides with them. It got to that point too when they showed the parties and was getting matched pretty evenly, only for while kept getting stacks when solo or when playing with one other.
I wonder if it would be possible to compromise with 5v5 and be able to do 3-4 stacks maximum. Same with king, doesn’t feel like complete game experience to me. I don’t even have to fight for power weapon sometimes and before it was a pretty much guaranteed battle every time, especially in higher ranked lobbies.
Just seems like easy way out when it has to do with matchmaking solo with stacks that some people complained about. When they took out tdm i started playing pve or other games then I started playing king. Don’t get me wrong I like king too and enjoy it but not as much as I did tdm, two different modes for me. When they brought it back it really sucked and just couldn’t play it anymore it was unenjoyable being no stacks, 4v4, easy to rank up, more campy and causal now, weapon nerfs, and now slows movement and delays.
I asked if we would be getting old ranked modes back and Dana said were riding through the season and we’ll see what happens in the future. Something I would’ve like to ask is if the new tuning affects current playlists or old modes from coming back because of tweakings.
They brought up battle royale as a possibility if we want it or would like it and I really like what @TC_Kilo1062 says that as much as br could do something for gears 5, there needs to be focus on day to day gears 5 till we get it to a point in future we can then focus on such things and that it wouldn’t work with this tuning would have to be a another tuning and we have modes that are unique to gears and we don’t need to go to the norm.
Just feels like poor timing to bring up a battle royale option considering everything.
I’ve seen posts before of people mentioning how it would be fun to have bigger team modes that’s aren’t 2v2, 4v4, or 5v5 and having teams like locust or lambent and cog or stranded or other factions. Would be cool to have elements in the map like venom or something.
I feel like it’s just not the right time though for gears, there’s so many other things I feel like need to happen, but if it was it’s own game or better yet own mode in different gears game and not battle royale to full extent just bigger team mode ide be for it.
I think what would be better right now and more fun would be more unique versus events, tired of seeing same old events, seen lot of interesting suggestions before. Halo has so many fan made or suggested events and many of their own as well. As well as fan favorite modes back in ranked or social or another mode to stack in aside koth, and not escalation, respectfully. I really miss arms race be nice to have it again as event or in social rotation.”
I love copy and paste. You go jinx
Lolol, I know right?
It is bit much though I just got lazy… it’s late, I tried…
A+ content as always
I’ve been fighting for this for a while… I tried it but strongly disliked it after a week…
I really don’t understand why they can’t just allow us gamers to play ranked king, ranked tdm, ranked guardian in full stacks…
Like cmon man… these modes have always been in the game for over 8-10 years…
Instead they entertain grid iron on us … just shows how out of touch whoever in charge is…
Whoever is calling the shots cares more about being right & their ego than the common gamer who just wants to pop the game open & have a good time…
Why keep dividing a small community…