Before You Buy Johnny Read This - Coalition Needs To Be Accountable - TC Stop Ignoring The Forums & Reply

General Discussion
, , ,
#1

Hi.

I KNOW it is for charity but here some problems with this product - because - it is a product at the end the day. Just because it is for charity doesn’t mean you mislead, exploit or half ■■■■ it. You put 100% effort and do it for charity.

  1. $9.99 is NOT £9.99 or €9.99 - That’s lazy and exploiting. - Doesn’t matter if it’s charity or not, it is a product and products are to the same level of standards and practice. Coalition chose to give the money to charity.

  2. Johnny is a shallow skin. SKIN only. NO voice acting, NO expressions, NO cards, Nothing. - Why hype this up and give us a half ■■■■, low quality attempt at something that could be fun?

  3. The trailer and hype was misleading. Johnny is not a character or realised in any shape or form. - Why even give this skin a name Johnny when it is empty ??

  4. The Coalition are so lame, they don’t even put it in any headline - support this charity - this money goes to charity. Not on the homepage - not on the product page. Any business owner will agree with me the level of incompetence in this.

This level of Coalition lazy does the charity - Gamers Outreach a MASSIVE disservice by not even mentioning their existence and why you should support them.

  1. I think that’s my rant over. Thank you for reading.
6 Likes
#2

Wrong hill to die on but I enjoy a good rant

2 Likes
#3

I spent a year in the hospital when I was a kid. This was back when they had maybe 1 or 2 video game consoles for the entire hospital. I think I got to play only for an hour on one day. Regardless of how the Gears 5 storefront is handled, please don’t base your decision to purchase this charity DLC on poor implementation. You can always donate directly to Gamers Outreach if you feel that strongly about it.

8 Likes
#4

(1) RE: Pricing - it appeared to me as £8.49 in the UK, so I don’t know what the deal is?

(2) Shallow skin - they’ve done far worse on this front. I mean,Chrome Steel skins don’t feature anything extra aside from aesthetics. No new voices etc, and it cost the equivalent amount in Iron. And if you want to compare to previous charitible ventures in GOW, then compare it to GOW4 when they created the Bloodmoon Imago - basically based on the Imago base character with no new voice lines either, and it was done via raffle where only a handful of players will have won and got the skin. Jphnny COG at least gaurantees players a skin for the money charged. It will probably generate more money for Gamerds Outreach too.

(3) Trailer and hype - apparently TC named this skin after a GOW fan who was supported by Gamers Outreach.

(4) No mention in store - I totally agree on this point, this is poor publicity. They obviously update the store on a weekly basis so it shouldn’t have been hard to add a short paragraph along the lines of “Hey guys, we created this skin in support of Gamers Outreach who work with kids in long-stay hospital across the US. All proceeds go to support their work” or something. However it has received some more publicity on Twitter apparently. It’s still a rookie error. I’ve worked for charities and have done lots of fundraising for charities, and it’s such a simple thing to do. Fundraising should also be about promoting the charity and raising awareness of what they do.

2 Likes
#5

For the record I bought it regardless but a product is still a product.

#6

:woman_facepalming:

2 Likes
#7

The name Johnny comes from an actual disabled person, “Quad Johnny,” I believe who started all of this.

This is a fair point. At the end of the day, it’s about Charity. Before they made a charity pack that was just the Carmine brothers for extra cash, no special skin. As far as I’m concerned the extra skin was all the extra mileage they had to put in, if not moreso, even besides my own issues with it.

1 Like
#8

I think most people will agree, A Standard Product =/= A Charity Product.

With most products, you’re putting in money for the expectation of quality. With charity-related products, you’re putting in money for the expectation that said money is going somewhere good.

2 Likes
#9

My only problem with this skin is them not saying it’s for charity.
For everything else they get a lot of lee-way, because it’s a charity thing. donating should be the focus, the skin is just a nice bonus for doing good.

3 Likes
#10

How do you know these things? There’s nothing about it on the store or in the video trailer.

1 Like
#11

@Nineteenth_Hour informed me at first, yes it’s a shame that it’s nowhere in the promotion.

But you might not know–the internet gives us a vast amount of information to find and research at any moment.

1 Like
#12

Kinda like if one buys lemonade from some driveway kid, one expects there is a very real chance this kid is a total moron and the lemonade has salt instead of sugar. Generally nobody is going to spit it in his face and demand their $10.00 back.

Yeah, $10.00 for a cup of salty lemonade… we paid it because it wasn’t about the lemonade. It was about the books this kid needs to learn how to read.

Now, if TC were to be advertising a Jonny and you received a Jenny or something completely and significantly not as described - yeah, there’d be some shade available for sure.

3 Likes
#13

Probably a recipe book

3 Likes
#14

I bought Johnny and I don’t regret it one bit. It goes to an awesome cause and I’ve got the best looking variant of cog gear in the game.

1 Like
#15

So they removed Johnny from the store.
TC really didn’t care. Weak promotion. No context. No advertising in the game about the charity Gamers Outreach what so ever.
What a disgrace.

Did TC even read this thread?
No reply. Nothing. Classic TC.

2 Likes
#16

Monetization and promotions are handled by Microsoft.

#17

Come on. Stand with me against this trash practice.

#18

No. While I was surprised that they removed the skin from the store so soon, they went to the effort in the first place with all proceeds going to charity. It’s not the first time they have supported Gamers Outreach and have done work with them before in the past. For all TC’s flaws, I don’t think you’re being at all fair with these sweeping statements like “TC really didn’t care” and “trash practice”. What practice is that? Creating and selling a skin for the benefit of a charity?

Besides, TC might decide to bring it back again in the near future.

1 Like
#19

I have a rule to put on ignore anybody who types that word into a forum post

#20

LOL instead of giving us the relevant background info on the charity, and the gamer it’s based on, they instead decide to slap on a quick Shining reference “Iiiiiiiit’s JOHNNY!”" and call it day. They think gimmicks will get more sales. Apparently, they don’t respect us enough to give us the full scoop and let us make our decision based on that. We’re stupid, and we need memes, not info, apparently.

1 Like