Yea mate, it’s all good, I didn’t try to ignore what you were saying. Just offering my perspective.
By the way if any mods are keeping up with the victim debacle on this thread, well, I think my posts can speak for themselves. I was not being intentionally insulting. I was dry and straightforward about my points, so, if its too much, please- message me and let me know it’s over the line. I won’t go against that, but it seems like fair game if you point out what I did the way I did. I don’t know, just the culture I’m from I suppose…
yeah, exactly, I’m tired of the attitude that just because SOME people do something which YOU don’t like in your games, NO ONE should be allowed to do that thing, in their games
Well, that’s where I was coming from, but from this post here:
We can clearly see some people don’t see custom hosted games as belonging to the host.
Clearly some people here believe hosts are being selfish if they cultivate the game they host a certain way they like by kicking people who won’t play ball, because that game belongs to the community, and not the host.
Where have I seen this before…
Hmmm…
@Slipping_Flames sound akin to any kind of particular political ideology to you??? nahhh… nahh… I’m imagining things…
Oh that’s right, Communism. It’s like communism. Nobody can own their own show. It belongs to the powers that be.
I know before Tu4 that the mulcher did bleed damage even when you held it without the silver back, but of course the mulcher doesn’t deal much damage anyway, and with the meta currently, they will be dead before they get there.
The Salvo and trishot combo is very brutal and really good, but the Jack can heal the silver back, which can be useful if your Jack is good and knows what they are doing.
For simplicity, best I can tell, there are two general types of players. These are my opinions, I tried to keep the descriptions short.
Players who will use what they find to be the most effective tactics available (meta) or try some different strategies for what they find to be enjoyable to them. This player is likely not concerned with the strategies that others use and tries to play with like minded teammates. This player may choose to bring up perceived bugs in the game that negatively affect their experience. I think this player is frustrated when they find a META that works well for them but others are complaining to the developers that it should be nerfed/changed. This player is not asking that all players be required to use the same methods and strategies that they prefer.
Players who believe only certain methods or strategies should be available to the entire player base and want the developers to change things to force everyone to play under the rules that they believe should be applied. I believe part of the frustrations this player faces is that more teammates that this player ends up on a team with are trying to apply the current popular METAs. It may be more difficult for this type of player to find teammates that want to play with the same methods and strategies that they prefer. This player also may choose to bring up perceived bugs in the game that negatively affect their experience.
I think there are more category 1 players than category 2 players playing the game. I think that each category of players have some representation in the forums. I think many of the arguments in the forums are between these two category of players.
Again, this is my opinion, and yes, I am generalizing.
I don’t think this is an accurate generalization dichotomy.
People tend to swap between either of the two. Looking for meta games, looking for other types of games.
Any 1 person could be either category on any given day, even both throughout a given day.
I think it’s more likely that theres people who want to control what others are doing, and people who don’t care, and that all people swap between the generalizations you mentioned.
I see a lot of people who complain about jd being strong simply refusing to make their own style of game for instance. They just want control over the meta, but refuse to make strides to avoid it. Still yet, I’ve seen some of these same players benefiting from it, or claiming so.
I have been reading through some of the Post you have been replying to and making, and i have noticed a pattern. The problem is not everyone’s opinion, it is your attitude.
You seen to have an inferiority complection, which is rather disconcerning in all honesty, you seem to think your opinion is regarded more highly than others.
In simple terms, the game is team based, the game does not belong to the player and therefore you can not create a game in Custom Lobby and consider it yours and yours alone. There are Private games for this, create one, invite friends then dictate how you want the game to play. In normal mode or in Custom, it is still a team based game and free for others to join.
And the bigger issue really is not what you think, or why you think it, it is the title of the Post. The Barriers are game breaking, lazy people are taking advantage of it, they are making game and building loads and loads of barriers and sitting back and enjoying their creative mess. And it is a mess.
I play Baird, he is my favourite character, right back since Gears of War (Original), and i am unhappy with the way The Coalition have created his Engineering abilities, namely no reduction on repairs and building, and “Barriers”.
Those that like this effect, are as i have said, just getting lazy with the game, taking advantage, and some even going as far as saying it is good for progression, XP farming. The game is a game, the idea is to play it. Once you got Baird, or any other character to max level, are you going to stop playing it, or them. Preference is that, i will play Baird after max level, because he is my favourite, and preferably with out the Bleed damage taking the piss.
Played a game today @Thebozzmeister…baird took off bleed facility…completely different game…got beat on wv 40…thats fine as finally a baird…with common sense n respect for the other players🙄
Players that routinely set up custom lobbies to create their desired style of play; encourage others to do the same; yet are distinctly put off by perceived glitches which are bastardisations of an otherwise expertly balanced game.
Some opinions are worth more than others. Especially ones that are informed in the face of ones that are not.
I rest my case. Your lobby DOES belong to you. You can kick whoever you want, play with whoever you want, create whatever experience you want. That’s just how it is.
Yes, private games where you let people join, and you pick the players who want to play the way you do in the lobby. Its free for them to join, and free for you to kick. This is a good thing. No one is forced to play with people or playstyles they don’t want to this way.
Sure, they are, that isn’t the discussion being had. The discussion being had is whether anyone should have the right to shut that down for other people even though they have the option not to play that way, or play with people playing that way.
You are not a helpless victim who is enduring this mess, you can host your own games, and kindly request no one do the barriers, and if they don’t agree find other people.
He has reduction on repairs, and building. 10% engineer discount, FREE repairs. He’s focused on barriers and MG’s. Not just barriers.
Sure, they are. So what?
It is good for progression, again, so what?
you don’t have to use it, or play with it. Where is the problem?
I personally will continue to play, all my characters are maxed. I still play.
Others will do the same, and others beyond them will move on once they max things.
To each their own, I don’t see a problem here.
Yea, well, you have the option to not use the bleed already. Just don’t do it. Don’t play with it. Solved. Easy.
The problem isn’t my attitude, it’s yours.
You want to pretend that this “mess” as you call it is being FORCED upon you.
It isn’t. You have options to experience a different type of game than the meta, and if you don’t utilize those options, it is nobodies fault but your own.
Also big lol at the fact that YOU don’t like how baird is so he should be changed for EVERYONE.
