After playing Engineer first time in a while, with randoms, I gotta say I appreciate people who play Enginner with randoms

[Nagnirnahs]

Apologies if the tittle sounds confusing.

Basically today for the first time in like… 2 months… I was Engineer with randoms (I usually play either Pilot/Lizzie or Infiltrator/Kait). I used Baird/Robotics Expert… The match was a Clayton/Gunner, Lizzie/Pilot, Keegan/Tachtician and Jack…

Now, not entirely their fault, all those characters are dependant on their perks to get their cool stuff… Buuut literally no one deposited other than Jack. It was already wave 25 and they kept either perking up or saving it for whatever reason… Literally only had Forge 4, 2 lockers level 4 aaand… Like 6 or 7 level 1 barriers to block…

Due to the fact that no one was depositing, there was no base to have.

It really is a PITA trying to engineer for random people.

Thank you people who are able to engineer for randoms.

And in case someone wonders, I am now maining Kait/Infiltrator or Fahz /Sniper both of which are good depositing instead of perking for the first waves

[Belkain]

I’ve played with so many My way or the high way engineers that I’m actually scared of investing in perks before wave 20-25. Frenzy? 10K up front and that’s it.

But yeah, I know what you mean. I only play engineer when in a party, never with randoms (the worst thing than a despot host is a despot host that is not playing engineer and ■■■■■■■ and complaints about every single decision you make unless it’s in his/her immediate benefit).

[Hyperverklighet]

Even more frustrating in those matches where the host commands you what to build but he himself does not even deposit and expects you to deliver a stable base out of the power collected from dead enemies.

[bob_is_eve]

Unfortunately I have to say, if the other people were at least buying perks it was by random people standard a good match. I find it’s more common for random people to not perk and instead buy MG sentries from round 1, with the match ending up with inferior fortifications that are expensive to maintain, and DPS characters that are unable to fulfill their role. When I’m engineer I make sure to build a locker the first thing I do in the match, that usually brings in some deposits. If it doesn’t I’m not entirely happy without deposits, but still pretty happy if the other people perking means I can do my job and build while the other people actually concentrate on their job of killing things rather than cosplaying engineer.

[Evil_Eye_Neo]

The problem is not players leveling up their perks, the problem is; players buying sentries from the beginning lmao! You finish the match with 50 sentries around the map and a full team of engineers
One engineer is more than enough,
they should restrict other classes from building stuff.

[The_Bozzmeister]

New players on lower difficulties build far to many sentries, because their cheap and effective when you have an abundance of power and enemy health is next to nothing. They later progress to play harder difficulties with that initiall mindset and results no longer carry the same success. Heavy hitters and snipers left without ammo lockers is a common occurrence and as a result players almost refuse to pay the engineer and build their own at more expense.
Engineering should be the last class newbies play because a good understanding of what the team needs,albeit not essential…certainly goes along way to being a good builder. A good engineer builds around the team he has,not the other way around. Perks and a sentry first mindset go hand in hand towards failing in a random match .
It’s a pleasure to build for a team when you all communicate and know what cards everyone’s running. You don’t mind a gunner or tactician perking straight away for chaingun or explosives ammo, if it fits the strategy…something that’s amiss in random lobbies unfortunately

[eviljas247]

The other day i joined one of the daily horde maps, it was vasgar and i was robotics expert. Most ppl that joined were reup 15+ except for a reup 4 blademaster.

All they did was buy lvl 2 barriers even after i used gm chat to tell them to stop they continued buying barriers, host told them to stop but nope they still kept buying barriers.

I bought n upgrade 3 decoys then left, host should of kicked this noob.

Horde/escape randoms is the same as PVP randoms, they either know what to do or they ruin the game for their team mates.

[bob_is_eve]

It’s pretty inconceivable to me. I mean, when I’m in a situation where I’m uncertain about what is correct I try to be inconspicuous and observe, but it seems all the people who are new to horde choose the option of what is most flamboyant and therefore make the team fail.